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Meles Zenawi and his health

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Ethiopia, Ato Meles and his health. By Yilma Bekele
Ato Meles Zenawi, Chairman of Tigrai People Liberation Front (TPLF) and Prime Minster of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia is not in good health. I became aware of that fact after watching the video of a news clip made during his meeting with the President of China at the G8 meeting in Mexico. The last time we saw Ato Meles was during President Obama’s food conference and he was in perfect health. In fact he looked jovial with a new haircut and was dressed in his customary five to ten thousand dollars Italian or English suit. That was until Ato Abebe Gelaw of Ethiopian Satellite Television (ESAT) gave him the scare of his life and he was forced to flee the continent. Things have not been the same ever since.
When he surfaced in Mexico it was obvious he had some medical issues in the interim period. His expensive clothes did not fit him right, his face was ashen and hollow and it was clear he has lost plenty of weight. I was forced to conclude we got a problem. Normally the fate of one individual should not be such a source of drama or wild speculations. But Ato Meles is not just another Ethiopian. He is the Country, Nation and people all rolled in one. The state of his health and well-being is not just idle speculation. His friends, Party or those close to him are not forthcoming with the cause of his illness. We are left to speculate, guess or are being forced to search for a fortuneteller and reduced to read the remains of his coffee cup or consult a palm reader.
We do that because whatever happens to him affects all of us in one-way or another. In the Western countries the health of the leader is an official record. If the leader dies or is incapacitated there are rules and systems set in place to assure smooth transition. Most African countries including ours lack that. In our case there has not been a natural and predictable manner of passing the mantle of leadership. In fact the last four instances have been a source of agony for the unfortunate leader in power and our poor Nation. That is why Ato Meles’s health is an issue we should all fret and worry about. We definitely do not want a surprise.
I am sure his family is worried. His friends are concerned. His Party is alarmed. The Ethiopian people are watching this drama with keen interest. No one wishes him ill but I doubt any body in Ethiopia is praying for his recovery either. It is fair to say the whole Nation is trying to figure out what his untimely demise will bring to our poor old country. What ever ails him is not a simple disease. That is why he is being cared for in Europe with top-notch specialists in an expensive private hospital. No amount of money will be spared to keep the green reaper at arms length.
Sooner or later we all die. We just do all we can to make it later than sooner. Our state of health and longevity is affected by all kinds of factors including a few we have no control on. Genetics, style of life and pure luck plays a big role. We try to eat right, exercise and avoid stress to increase our odds of a long happy life. There are a few things we know about the ‘Leaders’ life style to be able to make an educated guess on what is ailing him.
We know that he smokes, that is cigarettes. We are told that he enjoys chewing Kat with his buddies. His politburo friends are known to enjoy expensive liquor thus we can safely assume that he probably joins them in this past time. All three habits are considered forms of substance abuse and have ramifications on vital organs such as lung, heart and liver. It is fair to say that the last few years, palace living has resulted in weight gain resulting in added girth.
Most leaders keep a busy schedule and have no time for exercise. We know that Ato Meles is studying for his PhD in addition to his duties as the Prime Minster and that leaves him with no time for the gym. We have heard antidotes about his tennis matches but judging from the way he came down the airplane steps during his trip to Philadelphia to one of his meetings one can tell he is not in good shape. He was laboring to walk down while his agile wife descended swiftly even in her high heels.
There is no proof that Ato Meles is suffering from a terminal illness. On the other hand there is no information to say that he just caught the common cold either. As I said due to the nature of the totalitarian system that values secrecy we are left to speculate. We worry and stress because history teaches us that the demise of a dictator, which Ato Meles is, brings all sorts of unforeseen complications on the Nation they leave behind.
Whether they commit suicide like Hitler, are hanged like Mussolini, die in their sleep like Stalin, face a firing squad like Ceausescu and wife, hunted down, sodomized, pistol whipped and shot like Gadaffi or face the International court of justice like Charles Taylor dictators all leave a trail of destruction behind them. That is why Ato Meles’s illness becomes our concern and worry. We think about it to try to figure out how to avoid chaos due to a power vacuum.
This sort of power vacuum attracts all kinds of good and bad characters that would want to capitalize on the empty space created and might be tempted to fill it with something other than people’s power. We do not want that. So what are the forces arrayed to replace the one man, one party rule currently dis-functioning in the land of the Abeshas?
The TPLF party is the premier center of power. Ato Meles and his associates control the Military, security service, the mass media and the economy. What is there left is a good and valid question. Technically Ato Meles is the de-facto head of all these powerful organizations. He is a hand on manager. The different entities are foreign to each other but all report to him. That is how one-man dictatorship works. Some countries like China practice group dictatorship. The Central committee of the ruling Communist Party functions as a group. While others like North Korea or Ethiopia rely on the benevolence of a single individual. The question arise is the TPLF Party capable of functioning as a single entity without the head? Or would the different departments that were designed to look at each other with suspicion coalesce to form a united front? It is highly doubtful.
There are various centers of power within the organization. Queen Azeb the wife is in charge of the economic section. Due to her high visibility and negative press any one group is willing to sacrifice her to save their skin. The internal security is a force to recon with. Would the Generals trust this hi tech mercenaries is a question to consider. The original TPLF functionaries like Sebhat or Abbay are rendered toothless but still operate behind the scene. Why any self respecting Woyane will ally with these old fashioned kitchen conspirators is something to think about. The new upstarts like Tewodros Adhanom or launderer Gebre Kristos have their feet on both camps always ready to abandon ship if the situation heats up. No one trusts the duo. The likes of Seyoum will not come back for all the tea in China.
The military is the most logical center of power that is capable of using force to usurp power. In the current situation of Ethiopia that scenario is a little complicated. Due to the nature of the use of ethnic affiliation used by Ato Meles the military is not a cohesive force. All the top leaders and commanders are from one ethnic group while the rank and file is a reflection of the country. It is fair to say both OLF and G7 are present and functioning creating further uncertainty. Uncertainty is not good for conspiracy. The role played by the top Generals in the economy has isolated them from the average solder. Is it a professional army or peasants in uniform is a valid question. Does one fight to attain power or save his investment creates split personality.
I don’t mean to forget those organized as EPRDF. There are plenty but the Amhara and Oromo stand out at least on paper as the most likely group that will refuse to die quietly. Their puppet leaders are faced with a real dilemma. Divorced from their people they have no base to appeal to. Rendered powerless by design they have no army or security to fall back on. The TPLF mafia that is running them now does not harbor any respect towards their outfit or intends to include them in the deliberations. They are left between a rock and a hard place. For all practical purposes it is easier to ignore and discard them.
Where does the opposition fit in this picture is a good question. The major opposition, the nightmare of the ruling group is of course Ginbot7. G7 is the enemy they know is around but are unable to touch and feel. It is the cause of their blind fury. I will take their word for it G7 is everywhere. Of course G7 could be the figment of their imagination, the result of their paranoia then again why would they allocate so much resource to hunt down a ghost? In my humble opinion G7 is EPRP and Kinijit on testosterone! We all know what those two groups are capable of.
There is also the on and off legal opposition. That is a tricky animal to deal with. At the moment Andenet is the only one with any amount of dignity and respect. The Ledetus and the Chammisos are rendered useless and will most probably hide out the chaotic period and pray for dear life since all opposition groups will be hunting them down for the stray dogs they have become. That leaves us with the Beyenes the Meraras and the Hailus, the darlings of the civilized West. Those are the people our benefactors will try to parade out and use. They will become pictures of civil society. Believe me they will play their choreographed part to the hilt. They cooperated and served Ato Meles, no reason to think they will be allergic to the West for a promise of visibility and fist full of dollars.
The West led by the US is the wild card in this scenario. They very much like stability and the status quo under their guidance. Their interest at the moment is having a strong foothold in the Horn of Africa to prepare for the coming war for resources. Governments like the TPLF mafia are their preferred arrangement. A weak and divided country is their choice. I do not think they go out of their way to create those conditions but on the other hand they do not discourage such reality. Our neighborhood is a fertile ground for contention by the big powers. Except for Kenya and Tanzania we are surrounded by weak, divided and civil war prone countries that exist from day to day with no guarantee of tomorrow. The US, the Europeans or the Chinese are not about to discover their moral compass and save us from our selves. Expecting them to do so is the height of foolishness or a result of extreme poverty of self-esteem.
As I write this Ato Meles is in Europe being healed and the factions he left behind are shell shocked and in a daze. A few will have some reliable information but the vast majority will be operating in the dark trying to figure out this brand new reality in the midst of dis information, mis information and foggy information. Plenty will be sending their family to far away places and moving vast amount of money out of the country. Some will lock their doors and hunker down until the storm settles while a few will search for new alignments and future partners. The kilils will take the opportunity to assert their newfound power and create further complications to the beleaguered party. It is possible organized criminal elements will take advantage of the uncertainty and intensify such activities as bank robbery and hijackings. The Amharic saying ‘ye wedke zaf mesar yebezabetal.’ Is being played live in our country. It is highly possible the different factions will begin to duke it out prematurely. It is conceivable they will end up doing the dirty part of the job for the rest of us. As I see it not matter what this down ward spiral will continue for the forcible future.

84 thoughts on “Meles Zenawi and his health”

  1. Yilma,
    The demonic dictator meles is not being ‘healed’ as you said, he is dying! the sooner the better.

    A ‘shadow’ government is timely and must be set up immediately, composed of all stake holders. Ethiopian Review raised this issue before and is worth bringing the issue up again.

    G7 is the woyane nightmare, particularly in the military , among the elite and in the rural areas. the woyane ‘feel’ the presence of G7 everywhere.

  2. Ato Yilma,

    You really sounded a well trained foreturne teller? I am surpised by your skill?

    I think you wished Meles to go? You are telling us Meles is on death throe now? which I was not aware at all until I read your article.

    Instead of telling us doomsday scenario? why you do not tell how we can get what we wanted to get for the well-being of all Ethiopians instead of imbueing us with your doomsday fantasies? What is the benefit of this doomsday article?. You did not hint any solution or any remedy for the doomsday. You article is not helping us anything than tellings doomsday scenario. If Meles is the only problem? then there should not be any problem in Ethiopia according to me. We all condemned him as the source of problem. He is the source of Ethiopian poverty and he is the source of everything? by the time Meles dies, I guess and expect all the problem will disappear because Meles is the only problem.

    But one thing I agree with you, TPLF may have a problem because Meles made it to be like that. He destroyed the organisation just to own it. With the players either assassinated in a bar, food poisoned or assassinated systematically or chased on broad-day light, it is apparent, TPLF will not exist after Meles. Meles TPLF means Meles and if Meles go it will go because Meles prepared for that to happen.

    One or the other, since you have been crying for the past 21 years, you need to jump in at this critical time and take power and safe your people from any worst case scenario. Fortune telling will not help us anything than inducing in us uncertainity.

    My hope is that if Meles dies, everything will be good. Because there might patriotic TPLF who were suppressed by Meles and they may reform it and even bring in the Siye, Gebru Asrat and since they have admitted mistakes and I do believe they can work out a solution for Ethiopia. If Meles dies, the best thing to do is to Call in Siye from USA and put him to Meles position. Since G7 is in good terms with Siye. I think such thing can prevent us going into doomsday. This means EPRDF and MEDREK will form a new coalition they can call it EPRDF-MEDREK.

    I personally do not see any problem if Meles dies;may be it is good he himself will rest in peace than this chaotic and rest life he put himself. Everyone will die. Not a big deal if one man dies. He is not any different. 91 million must not be in doomsday because of the death of one man.

    Mesfin replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    The hilarious Gazee H!

    Why are you so much acuusing Yilma of doomsday. Is that waht you fear? We are already in doomsday with meles alive. His death prediction is doomsday only to his follower hyenas. I bet you are not one of them. What did Yilma say? He put in logical analysis of the khat addiction, binge drinking and chain smoking. Is that a sin. Yilma is a brilliant . get over it. Gazee H. you are the most confused ethiopian i have ever seen on earth. One daY YOU WORSHIPPED TO DEATH WHITES. You said white is great black is bad and so non. It was a filthy remark. the next day you went on accusing south african blacks of worshipping whites, the people who struggled for freedom are accused by you, good for nothing, for giving you shelter so that you continue with your confused life. You told us with pride you maried white. LOLLLLLLLL.that is filth number 2. Gazee H. stay away from Yilma. Yilma unlike you is logical, rational , balanced. he stated the facts about meles and his life. he stated the pure facts that every one knows. he stated the political rivalery, tplf style in most humble manner. why is all these baseless accusation against yilma? what is your motive? Your are pure suspect beside being confused. You are trying to eat with two knives.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 6:57 AM

    Mr. Mesfin,

    I have no fear to any man under the sun. My fear only exists in your brain, not in me; You do not know who I am. I have lived with it my life. I did not say Yilma did a sin. I just commented saying he did not give any alternative solution than telling us his foretune telling style doomsday. Yilma is brilliant for you, not for me. He is like everybody for me. I do not even know who Yilma is, I do not even care about him. I am entitled to comment too. If he is affraid of comments he should not write then?

    Mesfin, I do not know you. I can not say something bad about you for real. From your writing you sound a man driven by hatred than by reason. It is you who is confused very much, not me. You do not even know what you are talking about.

    Worshipping whites? that is a figment of your imagination. my worship of whites only exist in your mind, not in me. I do not or never worship any human, be it white or green or yellow or black. I do not care about this. It is your problem in your mind. This is not my problem. Do not try to pass your illness to other people. See your Dr.

    I never ever said black is bad or white is good. Whatever I say I give reason. But you have little brain and you think everyone thinks like you? You have a dead brain. Understand if you have any grey matter? I do not care about race, colour, tribe or ethnic,… I am like that. I do not hate any human. If you do , it is not my problem, it is your problem. I cannot fix you; you must fix yourself which is hard I believe.

    It is you who is filthy, barbaric, racist, ethnicist, hateful, primitive, lewd, wicked,shortsighted. I did not accuse any South African, I just wrote my observation.But you sound you are bipolar man. You really have a twisted brain. You twisted everything to fit your twisted brain. You are really an idiot, low life stupid, primitive, what is wrong if my wife is white? what is wrong with that? you must a backward, boobon like person, go to the wilderness and live with baboons ( zenjero), zenjero have better head than yours. Do you really have any grey matter? you are really very stupid, idiot. I can not believe you even dared to talk this shit here. What is wrong if my wife is white? whites are human like every human? you are only exposing yourself how stupid you are. I am sure you live in North America or Europe and you are migrated to the whites? did not you? now you pretend as if you do not need the whites? dedeb. You are primitive, backward, behind time, you will never develop in your life time. Ahya afer bela, dedeb and denez.

    Anonymous replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    mr gezaee,

    as a leader of the ethno-fascit woyane junta Meles is the main AND ONLY MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR the demise of Ethiopia. he is the architect of ethnic apartheid as a system of rule causing animosity and hatred violence and murder by inciting one ethnic group against the other. As we speak ESAT reported that 40 people have been killed in Southern Ethiopia through woyane incited inter ethnic violence. (visit ESAT)

    -Ethnic cleasnising and genocide which has been going on unabated for 20 years.

    – Meles has been cutting up Ethiopia into parcels of land and selling the land to arabs, indians , chinese and others forcing and evicting poor farmers and families from their land which they lived on and cultivated for generations. The people being treated like animals and herded into so called resettlement camps/ concentration camps just waiting to die.

    – THE NEPOTISM , CORRUPTION AND TRIBALISM OF THE TRIBALIST WOYANE MAFIA has been a well planned and coordinated programme designed to benefit people who belong to TPLF and their cadres at the expense of the millions of Ethiopians. No jobs unless you belong to the right ethnic group, no business , no lending from banks etc

    – The woyane mafia spend millions of dollars to buy sophisticated equipment to jam radio, TV AND INTERNET SITE and ON traing of security agents, spies , murder squads , kangaroo court judges, false winesses to control the population.

    – harassment, murder and jailing and torture of political opponents and journalists is almost routinely carried out by the woyane mafia thugs with impunity.

    the list goes on

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 7:30 AM

    Dear Anonymous,

    I do not defend Meles, but I do not agree with you Meles has been the cause of problems in Ethiopia. Ethiopia has been aleady put in problems long before him. Ethiopians were living on hand out from the time of Haileslasie upto Mengistu Hailemariam. There is nothing new problem that came to exist because of Meles.TPLF, or Meles himself has been the creation of the previous regime. Meles is not the cause, but he is the effect of the previous maladministration. If that was not the case? we would not have Meles himself? we would not have had Megistu himself? we woudl not have TPLF, EPLF, OLF, ONLF, …? Meles did not create all these problems. It was the previous regimes who sow all the seeds for today’s harvest of all these fronts.

    As such I do not agree with your claim Meles is the source of problems. Meles is actually one effect of the problems caused by Haileslassie and Mengistu Hailemariam. Do not tell me Meles created TPLF itself? he did not create. He did not create EPLF, OLF, ONLF, EPRP,…? It is biased, shallow , … to blame everything on Meles. You appear you were happy with all except with Meles? if that is the case, it is understandable from where you coming? Everyone is self-righteous in Ethiopia? it is the others who wrong? who? the others are wrong? These attitude of the others wrong and we are righteous attitude must stop.

    The only crimes of Meles are:
    1. Landlocking Ethiopia deliberately and stupidly
    2. Betraying 100 000 Ethiopian soldiers soul and taking Ethiopia to Europe
    3. Selling Ethiopia inch by inch to Indian, Arabs,European, Chinese,…
    4. Trafficking teenage girls to Arab countries
    5. Selling babies to Europe, North America like pet animals

    6. Assassinationg, food poisoning, murdering, chasing, … his own generals, colonels, Ministers.

    These are the crimes I recognize committed by Meles. That means Meles Zenawi added more problem than solving any problem. Many Problems + Meles problem = alot of problem.

    Ambabi replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    what do you mean by Meles purposely landlocking ehiopia ? did you mean that meles denied to use eritrean port ?

    Yuhun replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Gezaee H. You are so funny TPLF under cover, Siye is carefully prepared by the TPLF to replace Meles, he is acting like an oppostion now, pretending as if he hates Meles. He is polishing his english language in the United States to be a future PM of Ethiopia. We know the TPLF’s game, the have short and long term plans. If the TPLF loses power they have a back up Tigreans in the opposition to save the tigreans. To Ethiopians Siye, Gebru, etc., all the TPLF members current or ex are criminals. Their hands are stained with innocent Ethiopians blood. We don’t trust anybody who is or who has been affiliated with the TPLF. Why do you choose Siye out of the 80 million Ethiopians to be a PM. Do you think Ethiopia lacks potential educated people that could be its leaders. Ethiopia does not need any TPLF gang from now on. Death to all TPLF gangs current or EX.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Dear Yuhun,

    You are Shabia. You do not even need to be here. It is none of your business. I know Siye is your nightmare? kkkkkkk, this time it will be the end? kkk, if Meles dies, no one can stop the Ethiopian arm from Marching to Sawa? If Meles dies, it will be a blessing for Ethiopia and an end of Shabia. Meles is shabia so I know you will have nightmare at sawa if Siye takes over. But if Meles is dies, there is the possibilities that former TPLFites will rejoin and put an end to Shabia.

    If it is God’s will and Meles go by God’s miracle, we will not have anymore wars in East Africa. Siye will end and seal the issue of Eritrea once for all and we do not need even to send soldiers to Somalia. Meles dies means,the Ethiopian army will do their job without wasting anytime. Then there will be reconciliation among Ethiopians and there will be alot of reforms. And all Ethiopians will live in harmony as never before.

    Many people see differently, but if Meles dies, I feel it will be a blessing for the Ethiopian people in general and for TPLF in particular. TPLF has been hijacked by him and he death will be the rebirth of TPLF. Diasporas, this time, Diasporas will not have choice but to join the home land. Meles has given the Diasporas alot of opporunity by giving ammunition. If Siye comes, he will close all the windows. Birtukan Medeksa will be the Justice Minister. Siye will pick her to that position without diaspora fanning it. If Meles dies, it will be a blessing for TPLF and it will be the end of Shabia Era. It will be the end of Diaspora politiics era. If you guys believe TPLF will be gone because of Meles? you are completely wrong.

    The departure of Meles will usher new TPLF. TPLF will become anew to the despair of the diaspora politicians. Berhanu Nega will be made the foreign Minister. Siye will pick him and the end of story. But this can happen only if Meles dies now.

    Nightmare replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    How do you know Yahoon is Shabya ?
    Just because he does not approve of another TPLF Ex, he is shabian..Do you have any respect to none Tigrayan Ethiopians ? Why do you have to cowardly change the subject to Eritrea ? Eritrea is a fully recognized member of the United Nations. Eritrea has proven that it can defend itself..BTW, didn’t Siye and his likes fight for the independence of Tigray ? What makes them any better now ?

    You are idiot dude.

    abdi replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    ato gezaee, why are you so upset about this article? It is good to comment reasonably. Whether it is true or not does it matter to you? Meles a dictator and a leader of a ethnically based TPLF organization that is working hard to destroy Ethiopia. We know it and you know it too. So if he dies it may not bring much change to the people but who cares if he dies.If there is another one like him that means the struggle continues. And as you yourself said it let us hope that some one who wants to work with all other Ethiopians and for Ethiopia will replace him. But I do not agree with your crazy idea of bringing Seye and make him in charge. That is not what we want we want a democratically elected government in charge. Personally I don’t even like Seye, there are people who like him and if the Ethiopian people like him let him be in charge.

    TPLF has to go. It has to go soon. They have no reason to oppress and exploit our country. they cause a lot of problems.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 6:33 AM

    Abdi, my logic is not about TPLF. My logic, TPLF did not pop out of the air in the first place. You hate TPLF because it is ethnicist? well,I do agree TPLF is ethnicist, the ideology is based on ethnic. But argument will be TPLF did not pop out of the air. TPLF came out as the result of ethnic suppression, oppression, subjugation in Ethiopia. It is cause and effect. A black is black because there is the genetic base that makes a black. A white is white because there is a cause behind. Something happens because of something. Earth quake quakes because of cause and earth quake is an effect, but the cause is not a earth quake. TPLF is an effect but not a cause at all. You have to blame the oppression in your country before TPLF than blaming TPLF. I am not defending TPLF but I am saying the very existence of TPLF, OLF, EPLF, … is/was not because of TPLF but because of the racist and ethnic dominated rule before. In this I put it clearly the few amhara elite mis rule brought us TPLF, OLF, EPLF,… so TPLF is just one effect of that. God did not design TPLF. TPLF was/is designed by ethnic aparthied before that. That means Ethnic aparthied did not start in with TPLF, it has been there. You may denies these? the majority of Ethiopians what I am talking about.

    Siye may not be a good candidate, but we need stability to brother to make good out of it. I do believe Siye will much better than Diaspora poliiticians. If diaspora poliiticians get a hand in, Ethiopia will explode into civil war? who will benefit from anarchy? guess who will benefit?

    Siye has seen the mistake done before and I do believe he can make a difference and he also has all the experiences too. I am not saying there are no Ethiopians who can become PM? I am sure there are innumerable smart Ethiopians, but in all cases we need a buffer time to peaceful election. Do not take negatively, just take it positively. I am saying this from pure heart; we need change, but the change has to be done with cooled head not with Diaspora emotion.

    Anonymous replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Ato Gezee H;

    Take it easy.It seems you have been content with TPLF can do everything.It is for the last time you are told that you must admit the reality on the ground.No dispute zinawi will soon go;when he goes he has to take everything and anything of TPLF with him.This is not a broken piece to replace with another cracked piece;it is a complete change that Ehtiopians are struggling for twenty one years;therefore,instead of throwing piles of words on people,it is better you think for yourself only.

  3. Cher wore yaseman…..memot gin yelebetim……bekumu hizib fit kene ageligayochu be esat mekatel new alebet.

    Ye ETHIOPIA Amlak yawkal.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    If you believe in God? why you do not allow God to do what God wants? why are you telling God what to do? Please do not misuse the name of God for your own wishes. God sees everything and makes judgment. God does not rely on your prescription.

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Gazaee
    God is working in us whether we know it or not Mr.Gezaee you must not understand God and what God is. there are a lots of people know about God but they don’t know god.knowing God and knowing about God are two entirely different thing.you may know about GOD but you don’t know GOD Mr.Gezaee. and you are one of the pharisees(Hypocrite)TEWAHEDO menace(God and man have become one) i doubt you know the mystery of this. and by the way no one has monopoly on God and you are not the secretary of GOD

  4. Yilma
    You are such a confused person suffering fron acute identity crises. How else could one describe your drivel and drool? Who cares what your views on Meles’ health is? Besides Meles alive or dead makes no difference as he is the product of EPRDF

  6. That is your wish, I am telling you he will not die. you will see him again in the screen soon. Try to think as a human.

    Tigist from Dallas

    Mamo Kilo replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 7:50 AM

    Tigist from Dallas Texas Bushs Birth place

    We dont wish him death rather face justice like charles Tailor after a civilized Ethiopian justice by a honourable and humble judge Bertukan Mideksa.

  7. Well i will pray hard to the mighty God of the universe to take this parasite Meless from Ethiopia today not tomorrow so hope fully the healing of Ethiopia will bargain the day after all tplf are berried.and we will call that day liberation day for all Ethiopia.and i will like to see that day..

  8. It may be a complete miracle of the highest possible standard if a man who have been in the jungles and rural mountain deserts fighting firmely established two separate governments for more than 20 long years and after that chapter have been closed moved to the other sode of the coin, that is to say,the urban jungle and palace prison cage, with its windows and doors firly closed and dark for fear of enemy eye’s “BAD EYES” and have been fighting bitter battles for the last some 20 long years to this very moment can have any good health. What a life? :)

    peterson replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 2:34 AM

    I think things are getting worse in tribal struggles within TPLF. Between Axum, Shire, tembein, agame, Mekele area and all ohter cleavages. The Tigrai people have been used to enrich the Eritrean connected mafia leaders of TPLF. They have controlled the major economic and politico-military powers withing TPLF. Now, the divisions will manifest themselves and the ever increasing splinters of TPLF based on Awrajas of Tigrai will fight to remove meles and his mafia-networks withing TPLF and take TPLF back to the love and respect it got by the Ethiopian people when it removed the military network of Mengistu Hailemariam. They were welcomed with the handing of flowers in Addis Ababa, by the Ethiopian people. Now, TPLF mafia network of Meles Zenawi made it be hated by all Ethiopians, whatever their tribal affilation is. It is time to correct the mistakes and remove the legacy of Meles withing TPLF. Ajoha Tembaien, Ajoha Áxumite, Ajoja Shiraro, Nehna tagadilna Meles Belihu!!!! Mekele is built by stolen money of the Ethiopian people, it will fall like beruit by the fighting between Meles-Azeb mafia network (which is responsible for killings of then tausends of rebells from different awrajs, except adwa) and the rest of TPLF. God is with us, we bit Adwa!! Viva enderta!!!

  9. Meless was in comma for the last 24hrs and Samora was assigned in his place in case things go wrong fast. The prime minster is still ill and many be he can not make it. Stay tunned from reliable sources of Mekele.

    Tegbar replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 2:25 AM

    Who is your reliable source?Seye Abrha,negasso giddado,birhanu nega…kkkkkk

  10. Thank you God! Finally, God has heard the cries and agonies of Meles’s victims parents and children. If the death of a bloody-hand dictator is a problem, I’m willing to have that problem. One death is too many, let alone the hundreds of thousands innocent lives Meles is responsible for. In my opinion, no one will be worse than the most hateful, coldblooded, remorseless, torturer, killer and total human-rights abuser Devil-possessed dictator Meles!

    Tegbar replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 2:28 AM

    IF your ill wish become true don’t be so excited there so many Meles following.IF you know history you won’t dare to say no one is worst than Meles.please go to school.

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 9:20 PM

    @Tegbar
    Why do we need to go to school we have you to teach us you have a degree in stupidity from dumb and dumber university of dedebet.

  12. Every single Ethiopian must be on alert and act quickly on defending the country.To the most part,the current situation needs a through investigation on social and security matters to mainly prevent a complete break up on the pillars that hold the country.

    It is no longer a whiser or a rumor;it is real and the manifestation of the before and after look of zinawi.Of course,this man,zinawi is a career criminal who has spent a good hunk of his life on destroying Ethiopia,and must be held accountable and responsible as per varieties crimes that he has committed,and must stand for a trial dead or alive.

    Thanks to his goodness,our dear lord,God finally made it real he will take away zinawi to hell;joy to Zinawi’s victims whom zinawi lied about;relief to the citizens zinawi is incapacitiated so that he will not open his mouth as he did for the last two decades.what is that zinawi has not said and spoken back on the population,the name calling,the insult,the disrespect,the yelling, the bangging on anything that is immediate to his stealing hands,and you name it;this rude criminal must be foolish enough if he thinks he will be exempted from being taken to the court on the ground that he is medically unfit to face the justice.

    Beginning from the past weekes,zinawi was on and off on khat and liquors on Doctors’ advice.His siknesses or ailments are not localized on one particular organ;rather,it is like a network of pimples growing on every single delicate part and parts from inside leading to the interpretation corresponding to assortments of ills that he is currently suffering from.In terms of performing tasks,zinawi is at his lowest optimum.

    If remedies found and miracles or happen,and Zinawi is able to stand without any device or human support,he might walk into the kangaroo parliament that is his but nobody’s,will he oppen the orffice of his mouth spill out toxics,but this most unlikely to happen mainly because zinawi health is deteriorated at a fast pace.

  14. I am just amazed by your utopian analysis

    Hitler? his death is not a natural death. Stalin yes but what happened after him is a continuation of what was before without turmoil in his country

    There will be no military coup. there is no need for it. If Meles goes another with similar view will take his place. no change!!

    EPRDF government is not weak and will not crumble as the opposition wishes,

  15. Dealing with difficult subject is not quite easy, that too with lack of required information. However, the assessment of the writer on the political groups in and out of the country shows his bias and by extension reveals his group affiliation.

    Why the stick on Lidetu even after 7 years or scared of Gudina/Beyenes. Is there some thing wrong?

    Anyways acknowledging Meles’s role as a leader of the country is a shift that seems in the right direction.

    Cheers

  16. This assessment is great by Yilma. Right now, every TPLF and foreigners are planning what to do if Meles bites the dust. Of course for the West, it is better to bring Meles-like leader and Tedron Adanom is also the darling of the West. Therefore the West prefers the status quo by making sure TPLF rules again under Tedros. The rest of the opposition groups: OLF, Hailu, Merara, Beyene, etc are set aside for back up. However they stil lhave to abide by what the West wants. In reality, the West wants civil war. In fact the recent map of “failed states” Shows Ethiopia also as the “most” failed state. Which is an indication of the West wanting to invade most African nation to wear of China’s influence. They will attempt for civil war by using Eritrea, OLf and ONLf and Somalia. If the Ethiopians are strong in unity then the West will make sure the TPLF members to be in power. It is possible that Meles could be poisoned as well because after the humiliation by Abebe Gelaw, this could have brought unfavorable for the West. Now is the time like Egypt Ethiopians to declare their unity among all ethnic groups but I doubt it.

  17. The interesting tragic comedy of the current state of things in Ethiopia and among Ethiopians is that we Ethiopians are so much fatalistic and dependent on some worldly and or supernatural forces to come and save us from all of our direct and indirect misfortunes rather than coolly thinking afresh out side the comfotable box, define the problem and provide rational all encompassing solutions leading to justice for all.

    What does it help even if Meles dies instantly at this very moment if we do not have in place a genuinly representative and all encompassing transparent democratic political allience body/front.

    I don’t like that it must be GOD who has to capture dictator Meles and kill him for us or for Himself, when it must be Ethiopians who need to capture him and take him to the right court of justice to be condemned both for his crimes as well as a worning for any aspiring tyrant.

    Alice
    “It would be so nice if something made sense for a change.”

    Doorknob
    “Read the directions and directly you will be directed in the right direction.”

    Mad Hatter
    “No wonder you’re late. Why, this watch is exactly two days slow.” ~Alice in wonderland

  18. I never prayed for someone’s death in my life, but I prayed to God everyday and night to bring the end of Meles in one way or another to stop the unnecessary human rights abuse, torture and the killing spree going on in Ethiopia. God works in his own timetable and what goes around comes around. The prayers of Meles’s victims starting from the common street people, his victims mother and fathers ,to professional and to the Ethiopian Orthodox monks and our Muslims brothers and sisters, God finally, has heard their prayers, cries and agonies. Godless Meles has abused his power in unimaginable ways than a human being can think. Meles and his tplf tugs are the ones that have changed the Ethiopian Organic farming ways to poisonous fertilizers. And now, Meles has been bitten by the same Poisson many Ethiopians suffering from. My own 12 year old cousin died from brain tumor. Countless number of Ethiopians are being diagnosed everyday with some sort of cancer due to poisonous fertilizers and pesticide.

  19. Dear Elias,

    Why did you not post my comment? Is it because it does not fan or play harps, lyres,cymbals, horns, and trumpets about the possible death of Meles? well, you take it or not, I do not believe EPRDF is all about Meles only. I cannot believe only Meles ruled Ethiopia for 21 years and I do not believe the death of Meles will pave away for Elias Kifle to be in Arat kilo; I do yearn for change, but I also do not wish people like you in Arat kilo, because it will be another nightmare.

    You may not agree with me, may be the death of Meles could perhaps serve better for TPLF. TPLF was divided and weakened and hijacked by him. This time may be a good opportunity to reform the organisation in a way that is acceptable to Ethiopians.

    Elias, you will not be the next prime Minister; If you do, I will start a third woyane that can make your life miserable. I am writing this to make you mad because you deleted my comment and you hypocrate tell me and preach me about democracy?

    Good luck!

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Gezaee
    The only acceptable outcome is for all Tplf to disappear out of power out of Ethiopia. and may be out of Tigray if not all of them hijacked by this evil philosophy of ethnocentric mentality just like you Mr.gezaee but i bilve the spirits of Alula Aba nega stil existes.

  20. Deaqr Gezaee
    I have never seen a moron a stupid person like you, you will be hnager over too…. Never expect things will get better for people like you and meles. Though it is not good to wish bad for even people who brutually killed and prisoned and opressed millions of Ethiopians. Becasue they are not able to live in their own country, millions immigrated and continue to suffer the pain of living as foreingers, while they have such a beautiful and and reources. All these becasue of people like you and Meles and others. Wether you like it or not now time is up for you. We celebrate our freedom. and live with love, respect and mutual advantages… What is awaiting for you is judgemnt…. You never never make it out…. But if you have brain learn from the past mistakes and admit it and then we also embrace you to be part of us.. Forgivness gives freedom not hatred, racicism, revenge etc.
    May God Bless Ethiopia.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Why are u accusing me? is it because you think I am Tigrean? you do not know me and you asking me to ask forgiveness? forgiveness for what? Stop judging without knowing. This is stupid. Forgive to Mengistu, then to Meles, not to me. If you want to kill Meles, first kill Mengistu, then Meles. If you kill Meles before Mengistu? then I will kill you because you do first thing first and second thing second.

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    Gezaee
    Who the hell are you? you are nothing but mentally ill person that needs medication and mental hospitalisation.
    you need help you live in Canada one of the best country they have good mental health system get help. that all i can tell you man… and you are not killing any one if you do it is going to be you man..you are sick..

    Ethiopian review pleas this guy call Gezaee needs help he is not write up there in his mind(in his head) he is talking nonsense telling people he will kill them..

  21. Are you believe TPLF has been leaded by an individual or Ato Meles?
    I don’t believe, TPLF is well organized tribal party, so if Meles gone, there is another Meles. At least you will carry your load like a donkey for the next 20 yrs. It is clear, you worry for Ogaden and others. When Eritrea, which culturaly and historicaly bonded with you was gone, you were not worry or crried like this. I do not want or believe your Ethiopia fragmented into 80 parts, but we must be think in logical way, that is, when all of us are crying together as Ethiopian.

  22. Meles is like a passing rain;once he gone,he will never come back.Yes,TPLF is an organized tribal,criminal,and a mafia group;therefore,it is just Meles must go first,then the rest will follow.The main force to completely remove Zinawians from the root is what is going to be followed once the tip is cut off;that is what is needed.When Meles goes either to grave or prision,that is just a few percent of the job is done;the remaining task ahead of us is huge,but it can be done because Ethiopians have already been mobilized to crush zinawi and his regime to the complete defeat.

  23. Dear Elias,

    You did not delete, great! now you are better than the Tigraionline, the Tigrean supremacist who blocked me for 3 years? Can you believe it? Tigraionline, a Tigrean Al-shabab who declared himself as the enemy of Ethiopia by publicly declaring Ethiopia had never had coastal-line and he declared Ethiopia must be landlocked. Such person must not even the name Tigrai in his website. This man told us whethre we like it or not, Ethiopia is and will be landlocked? can you believe this type of person calls himself Ethiopian?

    Well! I prey Siye Abraha now jump in to Arat kilo. I have faith in him he will put Ethiopia where it must be.

    I knew Meles will leave short life having the poor quality of life he has had? Smoking,… and he never even took rest for one day; He grew old each day; he appears was decaying exponentially. He looked much older than Mandela. That is the price of working alone because of greed for power.

    I cannot believe people hate Meles Zenawi than Mengistu? how come I never heard Mengistu to be taken to court, or hanged, killed or put in prison in this website? according to the comments in this site, it reflects Meles is worst than Mengistu? is it true? how is that yoiu wanted to take to court Meles before taking Mengistu? let us be fair? I think this ethnic hatred lurking in all these comments? I am not against Meles being taken to court, but why there has never been such clamoring about Mengistu? This is not healthy guys. We need to be fair to everyone. You cannot allow the most criminal to live and the minor criminal kill?

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Gezaee
    the only satisfactory outcome for Ethiopia is for all TPLF to be wiped out of power. do you support that Mr.gezaee or what do you think? pleas tell us.

    Tekle replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    How in the world Siye will be the person to lead our people. Remember this was the man who was caught red-handed with his hands in the nation’s coffers. You better find a squeaky clean genius person as PM Meles who is admired by the world at large. Forget about Siye. You better off proposing Linda Rose Tripp with her pickup truck in all or every one of the Keating Five.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 7:15 AM

    Tekle aka Berhan,

    You are an idiot Tigrean. It is people like you who have been undermining and destroying the organisation. You sound a Tigrean Al-shabab. Do you know what? you are a traitor. You have betrayed everyone except Meles. You betrayed Hayelom,and you killed him in a bar after he survived all the wars. You food poisoned Eyasu Berhe, you killed your own Intelligence Minister in broad-day light? you put in prison Siye for 7 years? You killed Colonel Berhe? I do not blame when Ethiopians hate Meles. You and your boss has been the barbaric human in our land. Leave alone other Ethiopians, you did not even spare your own generals, Minissters, colonels, and artists,… you are the most traitor people who do not understand humanity. Tekle you must be cruel, cannibal, wild beast animal. You love Meles who lobbied the entire world to landlock Ethiopia? you love Meles who betrayed 100 000 souls and who took Ethiopia to Europe ? but you hate Siye for accusing him for the unseen?

    Tekle I can see you have personal grudge with Siye? Tekle you are really Selfish person.You preach us on this website Meles as if he is a saint while every Ethiopians knows Meles has been actually enemy number of one of Ethiopia? Siye crime is he challenged your bankrupt boss who is now on death throe? Tekle, you can see now, the man who appeeared untoucheable is down to earth; he is grounded now. Today’s king is tomorrow dead. This life is short; your boss could have done many good things for the country but he has held the nation hostage for the past 20 years;

    Tekle, you even hate the man who liberated you? do you think you can love Ethiopians? I do not think so; you are barbaric and traitor who have no even respect for the very people who liberated you or who fought with you if you were there. You must be really an evil person who fan about Meles and come tell us here Siye is bad while you were praising Meles? You sound the guy called Dilwenberu? you sound like him?

    Anonymous replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Now we need liberation from termite like you and Tekle but 1st you guys must eat each other..

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Tekle the Termite
    it is nice to see one termite Eating another Termite but in the end they need to be fumigated..

    Tekle replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    You two Gezaee H and nitwit Jegnaw:

    If I see two in a broad light in Tigray I will kick your asses like there is no tomorrow. I and my comrades have kicked the asses of your friends in the past. Meles is the most intelligent leader of any country now or in the past and there will never be like him for ever. He is the the 13th disciple commissioned by Jesus Christ himself 2,000 years later to save your asses and your lazy ass relatives and he has done so in the most dramatic ways. Tigray has transformed from a dilapidated countryside into the most industrialized region in the whole of Africa. If our Oromo comrades get their crap together they can follow suit behind us. They need more cranking intellectual power and seem to be aesthetically challenged . You Amharas also do have great potential if you stop sitting on your laurels all day and start working. I suggest you watch the stage play ‘Purlie’ to realize how slavery you used to thrive on was long gone. Get off your lard asses and go to work. Meles is not sick and he still can kick your asses and makes you think you robbed a bank. This news of illness is a creation of the Shabia intelligence outfit. Meles is here to stay until he is more than 100 yrs old and he will lead us for the next 30-40 years. You mark my word for it!!!! How dare you wish such a terrible illness on our Benevolent Leader? How dare you? You guys are so mean you hurt my feelings. That is not even fair at all.

    And you Jegnaw, stop calling me otherwise I take you to court for verbal assault and psychological abuse and torture.

    Abera replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    Gezaee this topic is about Meles not about Mengistu, and who cares if Mengistu dies today anyway, or should be taken to court. If the topic was about Mengistu we will talk about him as we are talking about Meles. Do you think we are afraid of him or we like him? If we talked about Mengistu now you would be the first person to post a comment accusing us we are out of topic. So just stick with the current topic.

    Mamo Kilo replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    Gezae

    Zenawi is a rtarded devil and highst criminal in this century,your comparing mengistu with this midjet is unfounded,dont get me wrong i
    i had my problems with derg but in comparison with woyanne it is a child play,you are very emotional that i can never imagine you to be in Ethiopian politics , having said that and i think in woyanne manifesto no where to find is a govt is servant for the folk rather go back to 100 years village like politics as the worlds global politics changes in a minute takt if not a second.

  26. i dont belive,what you are all wishing to happen here in our home land Ethiopiam. When you all finished reading my comment,for sure you are all think that i am a fan of meles regim but i am not. But that does not mean that i dont agree all works of our prime minster. What i want focus is you guys the so called diasporas not meles zenawi,i wish him a quick recovery but you guys are amazing.you crownd your self as a real fighter to Ethiopian people in baseing at western.you belived that Ethiopians are in a big problem when you compair to the rest of the world and so on. For me i am sure you dont have any ground to blame. You think Ethiopia need a change but you are slaves to westerns. You think the economy of Ethiopia is in a big treat by you are fulling the richest nations in the world. So how can we build our only home land with this kind of way. To be frank,the upcoming fate of Ethiopia is not decided highly by EPRDF it by you who live in westerns come. Its enough being a slave, come and do something,otherwise its all fake and selfish thing what you all preeching us.that let us to do here and lets you to live there. Not any more .

    aberash replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    Ato Tesfu from Addis Ababa, I want to ask you one question taken out of your own comment you posted here. You said you wish Meles a quick recovery, Why?
    It depends how you look at him. If you think Meles did not hurt Ethiopia and Ethiopians, did not order the killings of many innocent Ethiopians, is not responsible for the jailing of innocent journalists for telling the truth, the selling of Ethiopian lands snatched from farmers, etc etc then you wish him a quick recovery and long life so that he will continue what he had started.
    the people you criticized are not animals who hate every human being. Do you think the Jews were not happy when Hitler died, the Romanians, the Iraqis, Libyans, when their dictator leaders were executed. You don’t think North Koreans were happy when their leaders died and when this one dies they would be happy too. So If you like Meles then you are right pray for him to live for 300 years.

  27. When one ponders the other potential threats to the country, Meles’ health is not much of a big deal. There is Eritrea (Egypt) who is watching and waiting for any opening and opportunity of any kind. There is extreme Islam and extreme Oromo. The NORTH factor with its rivarly, rebellion, enimity and hostility. Meanwhile IGNORANCE remains our primary enemy: generation who is ignorant of its history, religion and identity. There are the wrong civic and church leaders who put us in these dark mazes and devastating quagmire in the first place. There is the White factor, the Arab factor and the Asian factor, who have tested Ethiopia and might not let go. Conquering disease is not even a priority when the population is approaching hundred million, it is not like in the past when disease decimated or wiped out the entire population. We need a leader with divine sceptre to peacefully lead the wild kingdom. We need African and Ethiopian master plan. We need cross-continent infrastructure. We need massive farm lands, irrigation, animal protection. Africa for Africans. No mercinaries.

    Yuhun replies:
    July 8th, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Number 27 is playing a scare tactics, the worst enemy of Ethiopia is not Eritrea or Egypt or Somalia, but the TPLF. The issues with Eritrea or Somalia or Egypt can be solved with international treaties and arbirations if someone who believes in peace took power in Ethiopia, but the TPLF is like cancer, there is no cure for it unless you totally cut it and wipe it.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    There is no international treaty that can allow Ethiopia to use Nile. You wanted to the 1929 British treaty? you believe in treaty? you are hewoyae brother. In this world is treat is power. If you have power you get what you want. If there was international treat or rule, America would not have occupied Iraq and Afganistan? so you are simple naive who believe in treat or international what what? The treat is us ourselves. We have to use our resources without needing. You say Eritrea is not your enemy? I told you are shabia masquarding as Ethiopian. Go and tell to shabia. No treat with shabia, with Egypt. We have border neither with shabia nor with Egypt.

    Eritrea does not exist in real; It will only exist until the day exist. When Meles go, Eritrea will be done once for all. Egypt has nothing to do with Ethiopia, finish. Somalia? hmmm, it is none of your business. Go to shabia and tell him that. Even if Meles dies, Ethiopia will be more stable than ever before which will be a nightmare for you. Meles dies, Eritrea dies. Ethiopia become the most stable. We have national election and we will elect a civil leader when Meles dies. We will send Siye to ERritrea to deal with it. That will be the end of it. Meles dies, Eritreea dies.

    Ethiopians, take note, there are shabians here trying thier best to exploit the illness of Meles to their advantage.

    Anonymous replies:
    July 12th, 2012 at 2:27 AM

    Kallacha

    Gezaee,

    During the Ethio Eritrean war Ethiopia won, but Meles withdrew, and infuriated Ethiopians. You cannot replay that now, reverse time, and make Seye a hero and a PM. Water under the bridge, that opportunity is gone. Why should the non tigrean peoples of Ethiopia go to Babeme and die again in tens of thousands to make Saye and his supporters feel vindicated. Why shuld they trus the TPLF under any leadership? Why?I say forget about Eritrea for now, and focus on Ethiopia.

    Should Seye take over from Meles? Ethiopians are tired to be ruled by Tegreans, understand? It does not work. It may work for at most a year, to allow for a transition to democracy. But, if Seye is fixated on Bademe and statrs a war with Erithrea, he will probably end up staying for decades in power. Not a very good scenario.

    zulu replies:
    July 9th, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Bulishit Woyane. When you were looting with Shabia everything was ok. When you fight others have to fight for you. Worada lebech. TPLF is the miner one enemy. The second Emmy is Amhars chauivnism.

  28. Who really cares if he is dead or alive. He is a brutal dictator intoxicated with cruelty, greed, corruption, racism, nepotism, and full of foul mouth. God gave us mouth to eat with, but the riffraff uses his mouth to s..t with. He is unpatriotic ruffian who doesn’t have an ounce of respect for Ethiopia, and the Ethiopian flag. just like his father and grandfather did to Ethiopia in the past spying for Ethiopian enemy to sabotage Ethiopian independence from invading foreign power. It will be a day of jubilation for all Ethiopians from all walks of life to see him go to hell. Yet it is a day of tribulation for a very few foreign countries who miss him so much, as their only African breed canine well trained obedient lap dog who knows when to bark and wag its tail to please its masters.

    Although his last days are numbered, I am sympathetic for the greedy bastard not to fully use all the money he amassed, and stashed away in foreign bank accounts from robbing and selling Ethiopian fertile land and its minerals.If he dies it is not because of what the writer of this article itemized, such as alcoholism, drug addiction, or studying for his PhD.

    I have known a lot of people with multiple PhD’s. They never fell ill from studying their eyes out. Why should
    he have to be sick and look like a ghost, when he never set his foot in any accredited school of higher education to earn his first baccalaureate degree. He can buy a million PhD’s for his extension courses, just as he claimed in the past to have gotten the fake academic credentials he and his cronies are bragging about.

    I truly admire any one who enrolled him/her self to any university, and participate in class activities, challenging their professors mentally, and take tests under time pressure, pass and earn their degrees. To those types of students I have the utmost respect, and I take my hat off.

    But for the dictator and his cronies who had been given questions and answers to prepare themselves prior to taking the examination, and to those who pay others to do their home work and take tests for them, I despise them., and their certificate stinks to high heaven, and I won’t even use it for a toilet paper.
    Although no one knows what the future might hold, I pray for all Ethiopians to make the transition of power more democratic, transparent, and peaceful.

    God Bless Ethiopia and your cries have been heard by the Almighty God.

  29. According to WikiLeaks, Meles Zenawi gets a cut from Somalian pirates, he reaps millions of dollars by pirating the pirates themselves. Th latest venturing in the trucking business (WikiLeaks not a source) is to squeeze even more money from the system as well. This is a true information. In other words, Zenawi is the Charles Taylor (war lord) of Somalia. WikiLeaks also alleged health problems of the man ruling the East African nation long time ago.

  31. All the TPLF leaders including Siye, Gebru, Meles etc., are intoxicated with corruption, greed, cruelity, ethnicity, you name it. The only good TPLF is a dead one. We tigreans have been marginalized than ever before, since the TPLF’s rise in power the poor, the masses have gained nothing, but isolation and hate in and outside of Ethiopia. Siye, Gebru and others triggered the war with Eritrea and since then tigreans at the border have been living in fear and worry, and they have been poorer than before, while Siye is relaxing in the United States and Gebru becomes a rich business man with the blood of our brothers with the looted money from the poor Ethiopians. I lost a brother and many cousines in the border war with Eritrea. It makes me mad when anyone mentioned the names of Siye or Gebru. It makes me sad and deepresed when I think of where we are tody, we are the most hated by all ethinic groups in Ethiopia, by all the Somalis, and Eritreans. Because of the TPLF’s policies we have been isolated and hated than ever before. I lost all my friends, Amharas, Oromos, Eritreans etc. I lost all the trusts I had with my friends. If Meles dies he is leaving Tigreans with a time bomb planted here and there.

  32. Where is my comment I posted yesterday and earlier today? Where is your ‘democratic’ principle? When we hold back inciting literature just to protect our people you call it censorship and when I post comment from the bottom of my heart to benefit you and the rest of our people in the Diaspora you don’t allow it on your site? What is that? I demand my human right now just President Obama said. I am deeply hurt by your omission of my comment.

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Tekle aka Dilwenberu Nega,

    Get lost you shabia, go and serve you sick boss ,and shabia agent. It is over now; TPLF has been held hostage for the past 20 years. It must end now. You criminal despotics thought there is no such thing for him, and he was busy assassinating and killing his own comrades in arms just to satisfy his greed. Todays king is tomorrow dead. Meles never thought life can be like that. He is the cause of his illness. Healthy people live long but people like him and like Gadafffi dies bad death. Look how Gaddaffi was treated? who would think a leader of a country be treated like that? it is anger, people becoming monsters and Zombies. It is Gaddafffi who created the human Zombies.

    Watch the movie called the Slaters. The slater is a herror movie, it is amazing the horror movie shows how ignorant , stupid people make other people like wild beast. They way you treat me can make me a wild beast and cannibal. That is what Gaddaffi did to his people. He got what created.

    You can see how Meles is hated; it is for a reason; Meles is an evil in real who promoted too much hatred in the country. You are the only person who emulate and worship Meles Zenawi.Do you see any single person helping you here in this website? none, why? why? it is him who cultivated all these hatred by forcing the people to pay levy of 2 billion dollar each year while they are starving to death. These fela landlocked the 91 million people and pay 2 billion dollar to buy ports and he turn around beg for food aid? shame, let him Go by natural death. I do not wish him to die like Gadaffi, but his departure will be a blessing to Ethiopia. He has been a liabiliity to Ethiopian in general and to Tigrean in particular. You need to be banned from every website because you are like die hard Meles supporter like the derg supporters. You will never give up until the last day. The Mengistu Hailemariam body guards still believe Mengistu will come back to Arat kilo? This is true; you will find them listening his video messages. Even if Meles dies, you will never believe he died. You will think he will come after life? would not you? there are supporters who like you who will never change or understand; they are programmed forever.

    Telke = Meles’s robott; you have no brain, mind, and heart; you brain,mind, heart is Meles.

    Tekle replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    If this website has an office address I would have organized a demonstration for denying my rights of expression. The whole platform should be open to me because I was one those gallant fighters who liberated them from Mengistu’s blood thirsty regime. He I am, as moderate as room temperature butter, trying to reach misguided individuals in the Diaspora and shunned my rights. I did nothing wrong. All I was trying to do is showing how hyper intelligent our Apostolic Prime Minister Meles is and how many more years he should lead us all. What is wrong with my claim and opinion? All of you want to crucify me for that. I am not asking you to go back there and fight because I know for sure you don’t know how to fight. You will make a mess of yourself. And if you still want to fight and you’re a million of you, all we need 10,000 of us to kick the living tar out of you. That is what we did to Mengistu and his Million-man army. We sent only 10,000 men and women of our fighting force to defeat 1,000,000 soldiers of the Mengistu regime who were lined up to defend the capital. I still remember looking through my binoculars seeing them shivering in fear and soiling their pants even before we fired a single shot. And we walked right across the supposedly killing fields and took them captives. Some of them fainted just from fear and we have to hug them and comfort them just to calm them down. I am not lying to you. I urge you to read one of the reports written by Mengistu’s own commanders about the war front situations. What I am saying is you can’t, you don’t know how to fight because it is not in your DNA. You see we are just like The Gallant US Marines, The One and The Only who know how to kick ass. So don’t even think about it.
    And you Gezaee H. How dare you call me Robot and with no brain? I am summa cum laude with 2 degrees in math and economics/finances. You must be one of those high school runaways. So shut up!!!! You are well below my station. Beat it!!!!

  33. Meles has now become a complete waste that can’t even be recycled.The fight for his survival is just a crazy talk.Zinawi-nuts have enven tried cosmo board on the moon and shoot the sky.What? Zinawi stands on his feet again! where have these jokes been hiding until now?

    First thing,first;

    They know each seconds is hard to get through for zinawi;they wouldn’t even dare say DON’T MAKE EXCUSE MAKE EFFORT.Going throuh each day-routine is simply a wast of body cells for zinawi again.Simple actions like flipping through pages has become the near imposible task for him;composing complex words and speeches,arranging objects according to color and shape;counting numbers from 100 down to 1 is unthinkable because zinawi oeverwhelmed by anxiety and phobia.

    It has been said that Zinawi might not pull through 2012;if there is an extension of life for him,it must be in devil’s zone,hell.There is a good evidence that zinawi have lost billions of brain cells;unless he is tranqulized and carried on the back someone and taken to his kangaroo pariliament and made sit and forced to say some gibrish,he,he would never ever dare set his feet there where he has been there for the last 20 years waging his stealialing finger at the public,pulling his mouth on citizens,looking down on people,and what is that this the soon-to-go criminal has said rude to everyone and everyboddy?

    In sum,aurovoir Zinawi!

  34. Why do Tigreans care about Eritrea than Ethiopia in general and thier Tigray in particular? Why is Eritrea and Eritrean special for them?

    Aboy Sibhat told us he fought for Eritrea more than Shabia and he said and repeated even now he will for Eritrea if any Ethiopian tries? Why Aboy Sbhat even bothered call himself Ethiopia in general and Tigrean in particular? It is not only Aboy Sibhat, many Tigreans are so passionate to stand for Eritrea? They would care about Eritrea more than about their own province Tigray? why is this? They believe they never had ports and they wanted to be landlocked for their Eritrea? what type of stupidity is this honestly? Weldu Subagadis made a will to be buried in at the coastline of Maassawa and he was buried at the place wish to be buried. Tigreans fought many wars to protect Masawa. From whered did this Rfrf Tigreans came from who rewrite our history wrongly?

    Recently the Tigrai online editor put up an article teaching us Ethiopia never had and will not have coastal lines. If this man believes in such absurd way, why the hell he bother to call himself Ethiopians? if he believes he has to serve Eritreans why the hell does he want to tell the Amhara, Oromo, … how to live? why he does not leave the rest of Ethiopians alone? This really astonishes me very much. I cannot even understand.

    Anyway the solution the following:

    To all Ethiopians:

    Assuming the worst Scenario, what we should if Meles dies? I am searious, we have to have everything in place in case he dies.

    I have few questions:

    1. Who should be the next president?

    Candidate:

    1. Prof. Mamo Muchie?
    2. Prof. Gelawdieus?
    3. Prof. Susnia
    4. Prof. Berhane Gebreslassie
    5. Prof. Asaf Jalata
    6. Prof. Abdulahi Ahmed

    I will vote for Prof. Berhane Gebreslassie, and Prof. Sonsia for to be two candidates for the presidentship, not the type of Meles appointed president , presidents with full fully authority. I do believe these two qualify to lead Ethiopia to the brightest future. Both are Brilliant Engineers. I am serious about these two guys. They are real people if they aree willing to lead Ethiopia to the highest level. These two guys have what it takes; they have the talent and the skills, and experiences, they are cutting international scientistss and engineers. We do not need talkatives who can not do anything except preach us hatred and biases. I have disqualified Prof. Alemayu Gebremariam because he is too too too negative to become president.

    Prof.Susnia is a cuttinge edge Ethiopian, international scientist she who resides in USA. Prof. Berhane is a cutting Professor and professional engineer who is sought across the globe for his talent who reside in Germany but fly across the planet to do cutting edge works.

    They have no link with anyone. They are highly skill Professionals who have no any political affiliation at all. Berhane is very popular and loved by Ethiopians across the ethnic and tribe. He has an angelic character.

    We need civil leader and we do not need all these factions fighting each others. We need people who are professionals who focus on work than on talking.

    Let me know if there are other Candidates whom I do not know. Let us be honest and bring the people into the light who can lead our country. We can not afford to keep on handing our country to rebels anymore. We have to hand our country to civil leaders.

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 10th, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    @Gezaee
    this is Ethiopian website we discuss Ethiopian problems and Ethiopian solution in General.and at this moment we are discussing the health of this sick Melese satnawe.

    But Mr.Gezaee go to the Eritrean website and discuss about Eritrea with Eritreans not in Ethiopia review..

  35. Why Gezee is so worried at this time of Ehtiopians’ readiness to completely demolish the mafia organization that Zinawi and his subordinates established and ran for two plus one decades? Why?

    We don’t care about the side effect of zinawi’s death on the rest of Hiwhat and TPLF;we don’t really care ar all,but Gezee,you should know that Ethiopians have saying time again that they will retaliate zinawi with the immenient victory,and that is what they are doing;therefore,you Gezee,must prepare to attend the funernal then,if you want,send a condonlance to Azeb to have a feel of TPLF presence in your sprit.Another thing is,once Zinawi and Hiwhat is got ridden of,Ethiopians will seaarch the best leader among the best through a democratic process and pave a way the brightest Ethiopians among the best to come out and lead the nation.Is it understood?

    If you are an Ethiopian,you must think out of TPLF’s box and think wide and deep like the rest participant do.Good luck in your thinking.

  36. It’s absolutely naive entertaining the fantasy nation that after many years of live/property destructions would be lasting peace in our sorry horizon even if the stupid shaebia proffesors that guided their x-stdents woyane to the mountain top ironically but temporarly chased away to sahel like common criminals, the home of the former elementary school of the ungrateful students that gone terribly wrong. There is this wise saying in tgrigna ‘kelbes ab kdmiu zelo sga ember ab leliu zelo dula neire/ a greedy dog sees only one way where the kitfo situates’. Needless to mention, the benefificiaries of the endless choas are hardly figuring out; the voicelless average people such as whom ER is advocating are not for sure. Why cann’t then all the stake holders restand for common benefit in civilized manner if they really care for the interest of the average people? Do u know wat, i’m ashamed to call myself tikur sew African seriously. Period!

  37. Whatever we say about Meles and TPLF, Ethiopia is a democratic country, where the ruling party shared power to regions (ethnic federalism). All regions have their own president elected by the people, no matter how free and fair the election have been. People are learning on their own language, which is the headache of the feudal. Farmers are selling their agricultural product at better price. Regardless of the quality, farmers are sending their children to school and university equally to the feudal and their extended families. We all know the import and export balance is getting better (Agriculture). In addition, we have to admit that this regime almost started from scratch and it is good effort to cover all weathered road by asphalt, connect regions to regions.

    I am not sure how much corruption is prevailing and not yet, sure, if it is the only issues that the opposition parties and the Diaspora are concerned but I believe things are fixable if we all love our country and really mean it. Let us take a breath and think of what we individually have done to make Ethiopia better, I know most of us we give money to beggars (Yenia bitia) for many reasons but have we contributed to the wider development? Have we tried to change the image of Ethiopia? Rather than, yes our Government is dictator, I cannot live in my country because I am political victim etc. Have we ever said Ethiopia is great country? And has this and that because I can’t mention in a minute all what our great Ethiopia is endowed with. Have we ever said I come to America, Europe, or somewhere else to make my life better and change the livelihood of my family and my country in general? I would not ask if you would or have contributed to the renaissance dam, but is there any positive feeling about it.
    I agree with all of the people argued on system of land leasing to international investors, but also important if it is managed wisely (not give based on the request of land grabber) and consult the community and uncorrupted, local experts about the environmental impact and peoples displacement.

    Came on Ethiopians, we can do it; we have the capacity, knowledge and the history. Forget the selfish and arrogant.
    Cheers

  38. @ Gezaee H.

    Dear brother how are you?

    For every thing there is a cause which I agree with you.
    And indeed TPLF and EPLF does not come out of the blue sky simply by miracle.
    Our leaders are the result of the society and vice versa the society is also the result of our leaders.
    So it is something intricate like the egg/hen conundrum.
    And additionally it is my usually tendency to think so that TPLF and EPLF are mainly the remnants of the influences of Post-Colonial legacy following Italian invasion.So Post-Colonial legacy following Italian invasion and also the victory of Adwa has also such an influential legacy on the northern part of Ethiopia. Actually I agree with you in that we can not blame all our long time deep-rooted and multifaceted problems on one single person and if there are those who think this way it is wrong. But I think most sensible and reasonable Ethiopians do not think this way and the issue at hand is not as such with such sort of sentiment. When we all talk about Meles/TPLF I think it about the destructive mistakes and crimes they deliberately committed against this nation and not with respect to what they unknowingly committed out of lack of knowledge and skill. We pretty well know that every past rulers committed mistakes and crimes but I dare to say that most of them are committed out of lack of knowledge and not that much out of deliberation to with the main intent of revenge to cause destruction for own nation. One very prominent simple reason you yourself mentioned is the issue of Port Assab that left this historical nation landlocked for the first time in history that is deliberately done by Meles.The second thing is dislocation and looting the property of native Ethiopian farmers from their farm land and then selling it off to foreigners who come with bag of dollars. Meles is even labeling and jailing innocent Ethiopians as Terrorists in a way that so dehumanizing. Sorry to tell you that Meles is so Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet and hence he does not have the required love respect and loyalty for this nation. My be it is his family background as is revealed these days by so many Ethiopians. I am not even as such blaming for what he is with regard to his personality that is filled with so Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet and that is his personal issue as an ordinary person that I can not help. But the problem is why and how such man happens to come to the apex of power to lead this nation. And yes indeed the main problem is when such individual with such personality trait happens to decide the fate of such big and historical nation with 80 Million peoples. You said he added more problems to an already exiting problems is quite true but the problems he added more are very intensely destructive for the nations general wellbeing and integrity to such an unprecedented scale. He has sewed more sectarian and ethnic attitudes in such an unprecedented scale which are so divisive and destructive for the entire nation. And he has been doing all these all worst destructive things mainly out of deliberation whose root causes and motives, I guess, originate mainly from his deep-rooted hatred, disloyalty and disregard for Ethiopia Ethiopians and Ethiopiwinet. What makes this man so unique unlike all the previous dictatorial rules is his deep-rooted Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet sentiment. Any nation, whether genius or not, must never be ruled by such hateful and anti-nation person like Meles. So Ethiopians have such ample reason why they are against the rule of this person and his TPLF thugs. He is such a person who asserts officially “የአክሱም ሀውልት ለወላይታው ምኑ ነው?” And if that is the case then why Ethiopians shed their blood and sacrificed their beloved life for Badme? In short Meles/TPLF as a force is such a phenomenon of remnants of post-colonial legacy. And hence Meles/TPLF is mainly a sort of some stooge client-regime who mainly serves for foreign interests who are against this nation. Regarding Seye I do not understand why we even want to resort to remnants of TPLF? What sort of transition you are talking? The entire system apparatus of TPLF, that is the political, security, military, economic monopoly, the technocratic bureaucracy, etc that is mainly organized engineered and driven by one homogeneous ethnicity collection and that mainly serves such ethnically organized gangsters and their foreign MASTERS, has to be dismantled and replaced by such a pro-mass national system. Every economic sector, like EFFORT, that is established by plundering the resources of this poor nation has to be nationalized. And if Seye is to come to power not to sustain this ethnically established system but rather to dismantle and replace it by pro-mass national system then I can support him. But I guess that the very motive why Seye went to US under the disguise of education is not for such holly mission but rather to maintain the status-quo of TPLF system only by changing the external face of the system, like simply removing some top TPLF officials like Meles. And It is my hope that those Diaspora opposition groups like G7 shall not agree with such scheme of betrayal of this nation. What we have to basically change or establish is a system not only some mere persons at the top of the system. So when Meles is gone by hook or crook then all his destructive Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet system that he and TPLF established and run for the last 21 years has to go away with them.And indeed what we have to work is for this real change. If the rumor regarding Meles’s health is true I do not mind if Seye replaces him now this very time as long as TPLF is in power, but in the long run we shall not need any remnants of TPLF to immediately cling to power forgetting all the mess and destruction they have caused to this nation for the last 30 or more years. It is well known that the West especially the US and UK want the military and security apparatus of TPLF (Actually including their neo-liberal economic policies advanced by Meles/TPLF) to continue so that it will serve them as a proxy warrior in the horn of Africa. And indeed that is why they want such military persons like Seye to replace the gap if Meles if possible. They do not care as such whether Meles is gone or alive as long as they can get another new coming continuing stooge. And in order to deceive the Ethiopian mass I think there will be some showy election but the established system of Meles/TPLF shall continue if we Ethiopians are so naïve and gullible and lack the required wisdom and audacity to learn from our past mistakes. And hence what we need is mainly a systemic change not some sort of change of visible face of leaders at the top by mere lections. When I say systemic change I do not mean that we have to arrogantly dismantle every good thing like roads or building or some hydropower built by Meles/TPLF. When I mean systemic change I mean the systemic change on the ethnically established and monopolized, political, economic, security, military, Technocratic bureaucracy by stooge comprador elites of Meles/TPLF and its associated neo-liberal policies of Global Capitalism that has been established for the last 21 years. Those public and governmental developmental enterprises, privatized by TPLF, who were meant to give fair or equitable services for the mass not only has to be again nationalized but also more has to be established for a proper check and balance of equitable market economy. Every blood sucking and rent-seeking private sector that does not add value to the nation has to be dismantled. The essence of market economy has to again devised in such a way that competition has to be also between those Private sectors and those Public/governmental sectors. This is how our politicians can claim that they stand for the mass not by simply delivering ballot boxes to the innocent and naïve mass to create the illusion and fantasy of democracy. The intrinsic-virtues of Socialism has to again revive from its disregarded dust bins and again implemented in a civilized manner based on reasons and not based on slogans. Some sort of hybrid system has to be devised in such a way that Capitalism (We need the flow of sane Money Capital not predatory Financial Capitalism) has to coexist work on the foundations of Socialism. We can not as such ignore such overwhelming issues of global social order we are advancing and simply stick and trapped to the issues of Meles/TPLF only.So what we want is not some mere removal of Meles/TPLF but also some sort of sane radical change of the existing system and replaces it with a viable sustainable systemic change the way I tried to mention above. So what we want is not for Seye to replace Meles type of mockery. That is what the Western governments and some of their potential Diaspora stooges waiting there on the list want to happen not the majority mass. Regarding the health and life/death issues of Meles it is mainly the will of God and we can not play God. But I wish him some health so that one day ,like any ordinary person like he has been demonizing and jailing, the he also sits on the mercy of justice so that he will be able to explain for us as to why he was driven by such evil motive so that he has become so Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet that has led him to cause this all destruction for this nation.

    God bless Ethiopia !!!

    Gezaee H. replies:
    July 12th, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Dear Me,

    First, I read your comment with deep interest to be honest. This is only second matured and mellowed comment I have ever read in the forum. I do agree with most of your comments. But ideologically, we have differences which I believe is good. I respect your beliefs and your reasonings too.

    I, personally,I am neither socialist nor Capitalist. I have my ideals which I developed from my own imagination. Some people tell me my ideals sound Utopia; so I have quiet different ideals.

    For me, my country is a source of my inspiration, its histroy is a source of inspiration. I am not antiwest or antieast. But I am also neither pro west or east.I do believe Ethiopia has its first principles which preceded Europeans but those first principles have been overlooked and undermined by the past, current generation of Ethiopians and I do believe the country is being sidetracked and hijacked by the west, you have to understand if there is evil on this planet, there is no more evil than the western governments. I am not talking about citizens, people all over the world needs peace, food, shelter, clothing, and others basic staffs, all human needs are the same. But western governments are evil and this evil agenda started after the second world war. UN, WB, IMF, WHO, WTO,… were designed for this evil mission. We are living under those evil hidden schemes of the west. My personal dream is to free Ethiopia from that hidden slavery scheme. Life is a good teacher. My life thought me this, but I do believe Ethiopians do not know this.

    I have to be hones with you. I do not agree with the word remnants? Having lived in South Africa for 8 years and having seen Aparthied Officers allowed to serve their country under the new rules, I do not believe in discriminating people because of thier past mistakes or limitation. You may not agree with me, but I even believe Mengistu must be allowed to go back home live in a peaceful Ethiopia. This is not acceptable to the majority of Ethiopians, but I do believe in healing and education. I do believe if Mengistu allowed to go backhome he can teach chidren what he did and educating them not to do what what he did. He can be used to educate people. But I do know Ethiopians are not forgiving also they claim thery christians. As such, I do believe in education, and healing, communication and understanding. Punishing people do not necessary make them good people.

    I do not see the problem if Siye taking the position of Meles assuming worst Scenario if Meles dies. I see you have one big problem which is shared among Ethiopians. That is why I say always attitude or mindset is social, national and general. Ethiopians in general mistrust each other. That is a big problem in Ethiopia. We do not trust each other. I can tell you from my own life experience, wherever I go, I have been always accused of being woyanes without any reason just based on biase, hatred, primitive Ethiopian attitude. A person must not be accused or hated or discriminate because he belongs to some social group or because he shares some beliefs with others. This is a general problem among our people. I even hurle on people by saying primitive and backward which I believe the reason Ethiopians attitude of biase and hatred. Siye have been accused of stayng in prison for Tigrean conspiracy? kkkk, why would one keep himself in prison for 7 years? that is crazy brother? I have heard many diaspora Ethiopians saying that Siye was prison because of Tigreans wanted to conspire? haha, it is hard to believe for me? kkk, can you believe it many Diaspora elites think Siye was in prison because Meles and Siye agreed? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaa I always laugh with my friends. Now they are saying Siye is in America because of Tigreans conspiracy? you have become now one of them? kkkkk does not Siye have a right to come to America and live like Dr. Berhanu Nega, Birtukan,… etc? does not Siye has a right to go anywhere and live anywhere? This is really very very wrong. Every thing Tigreans do is not acceptable? why? Tigreans are have school alumnis, associations where they collect money to build schools backhome? Diasporas do not like Tigreans togather among themselves and raise money? why is this? Tigreans have a right whatever they want like any human? I am raising because I see this attitude among Ethiopians. I think they wanted the Tigreans only to be beggars on the streets of addis ababa? it is unfair to deny the right of people to do whatever they want? Why is this mistrust?

    Even anything is built anywhere in Ethiopia, they do not say anything? but if something is built in Tigray they will say they are stealing from the rest of Ethiopia? OMG, this is not good.

    Anyway, Siye was in prison because he did not get along with Meles; Siye did not keep himself in prison for conspiracy. He can do the conspiracy without subjecting himself to pain, suffering. He had enough 17 years suffering he did not need to keep himself in prison.

    Without trusting each other, it will be impossible to solve Ethiopian problem. We will not able to solve any of our problems. We need to trust each other that is the first thing we must do. People who think they are better than other people need to understand they are not better than anyone. They need ground themselves like everyone.

    Siye was inprisoned because he refused to stop the war with shabia, no other conspiracy. I do not believe Siye will repeat all those mistakes of TPLF again. They admitted doing mistakes. Siye and et al, must be given a second chance. During the war, they did not have time or the luxury to know what they were doing. Only Aboy Sibhat,Abay Tseyae, Meles ,… new about TPLF programme. None of the TPLF fighters knew the aim of TPLF except destroying derg. Aboy Sibhat himself told to Radio Merhawi, Tigrignea radio station, … even Hayelom died without knowing TPLFs Programme? It is very obvious Siye did not know, Gebru did not know and the rest did not know the Plan Meles and Aboy Sihbat. The entire Tigray was taken for a ride by Aboy Sibhat and Meles. I do believe Siye is just innocent like Aregash and Gebru Asrat. So my brother, sometimes we need to trust each other; otherwise, we will never do anything. We need to adopt from European, ethic, professionalism to address the mistrust problem.

    About landlocking, It is Menelick who landlocked the country before Meles. Menelick betrayed his people. When I say his people that includes Eritreans. He sold them for 5000 refiles. He handed them and he tied his hand and kept quiet. This the root of deep hatred against amhara by Eritrean. I am not saying this to defend Meles. But truth has to be told without any biase, or fear or pretense. So Emperor Menelick completely sold half Tigreans to Italian. They were treated like dogs for 50 plus something years. He sold Djibouti for 99 years to France for some refiles. Because of that we had 30 years war with shabia, and you know how affected us. Let us not gloss over our history.

    Haileslassie’s bad administration: 2 Tigreans + 2 million Wolleyes perished by famine. Why? such thing never happened anywhere on earth except in Ethiopia? Why Hailelsassie did not feed his people? bad reigning, when people were dying in Tigrai and Wollo, food was rotting in Gojam, Wollega, Jimma, Bale,… those Ethiopians who lived in Gojam, Bale, Arusi, Jimma,… did not know their own fellows were dying due to lack of food? When Europeans were alarmed? Ethioians in the South did not hear until the end. Since then we are begging food aid.

    It is cause and effect: Menelick brought us all these landlocking and endless wars and Haileasslie brought us this endless famine. Now why is Meles to blamed for everything? why? Meles must be blamed for his own shortcomings, but he must never bee accused of making Ethiopia poor. It has been made poor already by his predecessors. He cannot blamed for other people.

    Agree Meles did the following crimes:
    1. Deliberately landlocking Ethiopia, on purpose, stupidly
    2. Sold Ethiopia to the barbaric Arabs,
    3. Sold Ethiopia to Indians
    4. Selling teen ages girls for sex trade, to barbaric arabs
    5. Sellling kids for money to Europe, North America, thanks Australia refused , no anymore Ethiopian kids
    6. Selling Ethiopian national assets to American, British,…
    7. Abusing his own citizens
    8. Murdering his own fighters

    Who should we blame? we must blame ourselves because we are divided and we do not trust each other and Meles continue with his garage sale spree.

    Is there hope? no hope the way I see. The way I see according to the attitude of people in this forum, if Meles survive he will continue with his dirty job. Reason: we are divided; we are useless and no idea.

    Everyone in this forum comes to insult Tigreans only. No ideology, no principle, no disciple or no vision, now 20 years, nothing. Woyane, woyane, woyane, woyane, Tigrie, Tigrie, Tigrie, Tigrie stealing our country, etc, It is Menkegnenet to use Teddy Fikre word.

    About Effort, Effort is the property of Tigrean.TPLF collected the money during the struggle from Tigreans inside the country and outside the country. There is no deal here. No hide and seek. If TPLF has taken money later from the Ethiopian Bank, TPLF Meles has to pay the money back to the Ethiopian Commercial bank.But the start money belongs to Tigreans; TPLF needs to disclose to auditing. I am sure if TPLF has taken money from the Ethiopian Bank there must be a record and the record must be paid off trasparently. Otherwise, you cannot nationalize private property. It is unfair. Othewise, everything Tigreans has to surrender his or her property because of some people do not like to see Tigreans having property. Let us be honest and transparnt. No hide and seek.

    About Meles, I do not think it matters whether he dies or survives, I do not believe TPLF will dispear into the thin air as some people thinks in this forum. I do believe if he dies, it is good for TPLF itlself and for the country. His death will probably be marked with many reforms and bring reconciliation in the country. At least that is my expectation. I do not expect anything good from him this time even if he survives. He is arrogant and ignorant, stubborn who never learn or change. I do not believe change come while he is alive. But if he survive expect more damage to Ethipia. For instance the shipping of teen girl for sex will continue during his tenure; I do believe he wanted to make money by selling the teen girls to build the dam and railway? that is my guess? otherwise, why would a leader of a country ship his teen ages to Arab, the most primitive and barbaric race on earth? A person who has conscience, who eat food and drink water can do that unless the person is an ought right devil. The teens girls were supposed to be in schools, not in Arab homes becoming the maid of the most primitive people on earth? what type of human being would to his citizen that? If Meles survives expect more land grab? honestly, the man is hell bent. He will not stop his dirty untit he dies.

    One way or the other, we need completely brand new people. I do not believe the opposition will do better either. You may not know, but Kinjit destroyed our future by ochestrating bloody protest and killing innocent citizens to dislogde TPLF from power. That was a golden chance which lost forever now.

    In general, I do believe Ethipian problems must be solved by Ethiopian only. I do not accept American, British,… any other interferences. My models are Nigisti Saba, and Lalibela. If you have faith, you can push the moutains, that is what exactly they did. They did not ask UN? or American OR USA AID, OR ODA, … they did it by themselves. What is needed is only faith, nothing else.

  39. @ Gezaee H.

    For every thing there is a cause which I agree with you.
    And indeed TPLF and EPLF does not come out of the blue sky simply by miracle.
    Our leaders are the result of the society and vice versa the society is also the result of our leaders.
    So it is something intricate like the egg/hen conundrum.
    And additionally it is my usually tendency to think so that TPLF and EPLF are mainly the remnants of the influences of Post-Colonial legacy following Italian invasion.So Post-Colonial legacy following Italian invasion and also the victory of Adwa has also such an influential legacy on the northern part of Ethiopia. Actually I agree with you in that we can not blame all our long time deep-rooted and multifaceted problems on one single person and if there are those who think this way it is wrong. But I think most sensible and reasonable Ethiopians do not think this way and the issue at hand is not as such with such sort of sentiment. When we all talk about Meles/TPLF I think it about the destructive mistakes and crimes they deliberately committed against this nation and not with respect to what they unknowingly committed out of lack of knowledge and skill. We pretty well know that every past rulers committed mistakes and crimes but I dare to say that most of them are committed out of lack of knowledge and not that much out of deliberation to with the main intent of revenge to cause destruction for own nation. One very prominent simple reason you yourself mentioned is the issue of Port Assab that left this historical nation landlocked for the first time in history that is deliberately done by Meles.The second thing is dislocation and looting the property of native Ethiopian farmers from their farm land and then selling it off to foreigners who come with bag of dollars. Meles is even labeling and jailing innocent Ethiopians as Terrorists in a way that so dehumanizing. Sorry to tell you that Meles is so Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet and hence he does not have the required love respect and loyalty for this nation. My be it is his family background as is revealed these days by so many Ethiopians. I am not even as such blaming for what he is with regard to his personality that is filled with so Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet and that is his personal issue as an ordinary person that I can not help. But the problem is why and how such man happens to come to the apex of power to lead this nation. And yes indeed the main problem is when such individual with such personality trait happens to decide the fate of such big and historical nation with 80 Million peoples. You said he added more problems to an already exiting problems is quite true but the problems he added more are very intensely destructive for the nations general wellbeing and integrity to such an unprecedented scale. He has sewed more sectarian and ethnic attitudes in such an unprecedented scale which are so divisive and destructive for the entire nation. And he has been doing all these all worst destructive things mainly out of deliberation whose root causes and motives, I guess, originate mainly from his deep-rooted hatred, disloyalty and disregard for Ethiopia Ethiopians and Ethiopiwinet. What makes this man so unique unlike all the previous dictatorial rules is his deep-rooted Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet sentiment. Any nation, whether genius or not, must never be ruled by such hateful and anti-nation person like Meles. So Ethiopians have such ample reason why they are against the rule of this person and his TPLF thugs. He is such a person who asserts officially “የአክሱም ሀውልት ለወላይታው ምኑ ነው?” And if that is the case then why Ethiopians shed their blood and sacrificed their beloved life for Badme? In short Meles/TPLF as a force is such a phenomenon of remnants of post-colonial legacy. And hence Meles/TPLF is mainly a sort of some stooge client-regime who mainly serves for foreign interests who are against this nation. Regarding Seye I do not understand why we even want to resort to remnants of TPLF? What sort of transition you are talking? The entire system apparatus of TPLF, that is the political, security, military, economic monopoly, the technocratic bureaucracy, etc that is mainly organized engineered and driven by one homogeneous ethnicity collection and that mainly serves such ethnically organized gangsters and their foreign MASTERS, has to be dismantled and replaced by such a pro-mass national system. Every economic sector, like EFFORT, that is established by plundering the resources of this poor nation has to be nationalized. And if Seye is to come to power not to sustain this ethnically established system but rather to dismantle and replace it by pro-mass national system then I can support him. But I guess that the very motive why Seye went to US under the disguise of education is not for such holly mission but rather to maintain the status-quo of TPLF system only by changing the external face of the system, like simply removing some top TPLF officials like Meles. And It is my hope that those Diaspora opposition groups like G7 shall not agree with such scheme of betrayal of this nation. What we have to basically change or establish is a system not only some mere persons at the top of the system. So when Meles is gone by hook or crook then all his destructive Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet system that he and TPLF established and run for the last 21 years has to go away with them.And indeed what we have to work is for this real change. If the rumor regarding Meles’s health is true I do not mind if Seye replaces him now this very time as long as TPLF is in power, but in the long run we shall not need any remnants of TPLF to immediately cling to power forgetting all the mess and destruction they have caused to this nation for the last 30 or more years. It is well known that the West especially the US and UK want the military and security apparatus of TPLF (Actually including their neo-liberal economic policies advanced by Meles/TPLF) to continue so that it will serve them as a proxy warrior in the horn of Africa. And indeed that is why they want such military persons like Seye to replace the gap if Meles if possible. They do not care as such whether Meles is gone or alive as long as they can get another new coming continuing stooge. And in order to deceive the Ethiopian mass I think there will be some showy election but the established system of Meles/TPLF shall continue if we Ethiopians are so naïve and gullible and lack the required wisdom and audacity to learn from our past mistakes. And hence what we need is mainly a systemic change not some sort of change of visible face of leaders at the top by mere lections. When I say systemic change I do not mean that we have to arrogantly dismantle every good thing like roads or building or some hydropower built by Meles/TPLF. When I mean systemic change I mean the systemic change on the ethnically established and monopolized, political, economic, security, military, Technocratic bureaucracy by stooge comprador elites of Meles/TPLF and its associated neo-liberal policies of Global Capitalism that has been established for the last 21 years. Those public and governmental developmental enterprises, privatized by TPLF, who were meant to give fair or equitable services for the mass not only has to be again nationalized but also more has to be established for a proper check and balance of equitable market economy. Every blood sucking and rent-seeking private sector that does not add value to the nation has to be dismantled. The essence of market economy has to again devised in such a way that competition has to be also between those Private sectors and those Public/governmental sectors. This is how our politicians can claim that they stand for the mass not by simply delivering ballot boxes to the innocent and naïve mass to create the illusion and fantasy of democracy. The intrinsic-virtues of Socialism has to again revive from its disregarded dust bins and again implemented in a civilized manner based on reasons and not based on slogans. Some sort of hybrid system has to be devised in such a way that Capitalism (We need the flow of sane Money Capital not predatory Financial Capitalism) has to coexist work on the foundations of Socialism. We can not as such ignore such overwhelming issues of global social order we are advancing and simply stick and trapped to the issues of Meles/TPLF only.So what we want is not some mere removal of Meles/TPLF but also some sort of sane radical change of the existing system and replaces it with a viable sustainable systemic change the way I tried to mention above. So what we want is not for Seye to replace Meles type of mockery. That is what the Western governments and some of their potential Diaspora stooges waiting there on the list want to happen not the majority mass. Regarding the health and life/death issues of Meles it is mainly the will of God and we can not play God. But I wish him some health so that one day ,like any ordinary person like he has been demonizing and jailing, the he also sits on the mercy of justice so that he will be able to explain for us as to why he was driven by such evil motive so that he has become so Anti-Ethiopia Anti-Ethiopians and Anti-Ethiopiwinet that has led him to cause this all destruction for this nation.

    God bless Ethiopia !!!

  40. Elias, once again you start to muzzle the rights of participants from sharing their views concerning issues that matters their country. I make no apology that I am not one of those who scratch the back of someone to get my points posted; that will be sinful act for me. I believe, however, everyone must play by the rule; in this connection, only a message that bears dragetory or unfair reproaches of citizens by going out of the issue.etc…need tto bared.

    Check thisout, for this piece you have 76 comments send; yet, you allowed only 39 of them to be posted. That very much speaks how some of us are wrapped up in fear of democracy. I see now the democracy you can afford in your forum is perhaps this one: a democracy that accommodates a circle of friends or only those who agree with your opinion. I am saying this because such behavior harms the country we both claim to defend. Infact, We both very much might share the same core values, and yet I see no reason what so ever why my message is with held from being posted. Please don’t’ forget Ethiopia is for all of us. I send a one paragraph message regarding this issue which you refused to post. In short, that post bears the following message. Some participants much ado and commotions over this issue ,and their emotion regrding this have reached beyond acceptable range. And that they need to curb their charged emotions and stop pronouncing negative scenarios about the future of the country, as it does not help the situation on the ground. Is this unacceptable remark? Does this offend you in any way?

  41. First I want to thank all of you for reading my analysis. It is a start. What I find interesting is how three individuals can actually control the forum and make most of you react to their wild ideas, empty rhetoric and garden variety brain fart. They were able to completely dominate the discussion and lead it the way they were trained to do. It is an art. I doubt Geeze, tekle or anonymous acquired this ability by chance but thru education and training. Geeze always appears first to set the stage while the two stooges follow to throw in raw ideas to mix the pot. Now like perfectly trained puddles the rest of you follow without thinking and fall into this trap of accusations, acrimony and ethnic politics. That is what they want and you my friends comply without further thought. It is sad and a waste of time and energy. This Website is supposed to be our school where we exchange ideas so we can be able to solve the grave problem our country is facing. We have the freedom to read, think, get informed and learn how to relate to each other. What I see is comments by people with raw undeveloped brain refusing to think, investigate and keep an open mind. We are in a hurry to give opinion without further thought and resort to name calling and shameful language to express ourselves. I can understand the motives of Geeze, Tekle and anyonymous they got a job to do. They are paid for it. What is your excuse my Ethiopian brother and sister. Can’t you give your opinion without getting caught in their web. Why do you answer cadres and hired guns? Does it advance the struggle, does it help us see the problem in a different perspective, does it add value to the discussion should be our concern not what these three woyane agents say. Do you think calling Geeze and his friends makes a difference, are you trying to convince him or you just feel good insulting this non entity. The problem with that approach is you waste our time and you take the rest of us on this stupid road which goes no where. Believe me I am not worried regarding what they say, I wish it was half way intelegent and it will help me think but I am afraid that is not so. It is not their desire and I am not going to play that game where there are no rules. That is what Meles does, plays a game where he is the participant the referee and if he wants the audience too. I hope this gives you a pause and next time when you see these three names stop and think before you react. Of course they can always change their names but who cares we are into ideas not individuals.

    Jegnaw replies:
    July 13th, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    Ato Yilma thanks
    Thanks i will remember that advice and it make a lots of sense!!

  42. Mr. Yilma,

    There is no doubt you are showering me with deep rooted, figmented accusation based on hatred. You are not the prime mover of freedom or justice or fairness or equality. You have neither the ability nor the will nor the gut nor the dignity nor the integrity nor the purity of truth to lead or to teach moral to anyone. You are coward who can not stand the truth in manner except to bash people whom you do not like because of thier social groupping. It is you and your likes who chew Tigreans in this website like chat or mira. It is you and your likes who chew Tigreans in this website until you get high and ecstatic.

    Look, as to me, you take it or you leave it, I will never kneel down either to Woyane or to few Amhara chauvinists or supremacists like you. I am telling you, you can cut my neck, you will never able to bend me to fit your narrow agenda. I come to this website as a single person, as single Ethiopian. I do not come here as Woyane or as Tigrean. I come here as I am. That will never change even if the sun stops shining, the stars fall on me and even if the earth quake and convusle. There is nothing under sun that can scare me or intimidate me except God. The only thing which I fear is God,I do not allow men like you to walk on me in whatever way.

    If you are trying to convince Mr. Elias Kifle to ban me, let him do it. I lose nothing but save my precious time, precious energy and also protect myself from abuse by primitive, backward people like you. I do not like abusive words but you and you like force me to react the way I react. What you give is what you get. What you sow is what you harvest. I am not Jesus, to allow the few and narrow Amhara supremacist to slap my face and to give them even my other face. I am not Jesus, I am human like you. Do you feel it how it hurts when you read something you do not like? It hurts the others too my brother. You have to stop being self-fish.

    If you are trying to convince Mr. Elias to ban me, convince him to ban me, let him do it. I can live without this website very well with my time, energy, integrity saved and protected.

    Also, I suggest every accusation you file anywhere, you need to support your accusation with evidence. Do not try to fool people to follow your ego. If I am Woyane? put the evidence in this website that proves I am woyane. Otherwise, first you are accusing people falsely, second you are misinforming your followers. That is wrong. Third stop categorizing people and labeling them. You must also understand I have a right to support Woyane if I believe in it. The only reason I do not support Woyane is only because I do not support their policies. You have to understand that I have lost hundreds of my families memembers in Tigray and as well as in Eritrea because of the struggle for freedom and I cannot say they died in vain. They died because they were oppressed, subjugated in thier own country. Because I hate Meles and Issayas, I cannot condemn the Tigreans and Eritrean youth who gave their precious lives. I oppose only the ideology of Woyane and Shabia and the bloody method they used. But I cannot deny them their sacrifice for freedom.

    Do you believe in freedom, equality or impartiality or fairness? if you do , practice what you preach, stop bashing Tigreans. You must understand you are even pushing very moderate Tigreans to other end. That is not good for Ethiopia. If you love Ethiopia, you ought to love everyone including the woyanes and you have to oppose the what you have to oppose based on truth. Black-mailing people because of their names bear Tigrignea is not barbaric, racist, … worst than anyone.

    If you have better idea, why you do not take the podium and educate people in this forum including myself? If I were you, I would have done that. And that is what I have been trying to do. I do not come here to preach about Amhara, Oromo, Tigreans,… I hate ethnic politics. But it is you and your likes who is dragging me into this dirty job. The problem is you do not understand other people. You only see yourself in the mirror and you never recognize other people. You wanted everyone to follow you without thinking? How is it going to work for you even by exclusing me and others? How are you going to achieve it? If you are not brave enough to hear the opposing views, how the hell are the Ethiopians going to follow you? Even TPLF never did this type of approach, it is counterproductive.

    As I said it already, TPLF took 17 years to convince Tigreans? this is true, despite derg was brutal, Tigreans supported derg until the time of Hawzien. The entire Tigrean population turned into woyane only after derg bombarded Hawzien. You did not see my brother, I have grown as a child seeing Tigreans killing Tigreans and dragging the dead body of their own people on the streets of adigrat, adwa. I have seen Shabians killed by Eritreans derg supporters and dragged in the streets of Gindae, Keren,…who was playing this game? you probably lived in addis and never even heard a shot of gun? may be? My brother, we know what we have been through very well. I think you wanted me to follow your armed struggle ideology? no ways, you follow your ideology and fight, but I will not subscribe to your bloody ideology. You agree or not, it is yours as long you are going to the battle field yourself too.

    My surprise, with this attitude how are you going to win the heart of any Ethoipians? including non-Tigreans? how is it going to work? I think you are caging yourself in a box of isolation because of fear of woyane? if you call every one who does not agree with you woyane, olf, onlf, … it is going work for you.

    Brotherly advices, you do not have to take my advise, if you have better idea, come out and say them here, educate us and convince us with reason than bashing us with your deep rooted hatred. You deep rooted hatred will not benefit even yourself, leave alone Ethiopia. If you love Ethiopia, love all the people in it, otherwise, Ethiopia is not only amharic speakers?

    How many Ethiopian langauges do you speak? only amharic? shame on you? I am better than you. I speak Tigrignea, amharic, some Oromignea, Afarignea,… hope to learn Guraginea, otherwise, youur mama Ethiopia and your map of mama Ethiopia means nothing to the oppressed.

    Get out of the ethnic, tribal box man. You have a built ethnic biase, hatred in yourself, but you jump to accuse other as ethnicist? why? who gave you the right to accuse others? who are you? who cares even what you believe in if it does not appeal to me and others? it is yours. I am entitled to reject you agenda. Are you real man? have a gut, stand for truth, let the past, present stories of Ethiopia be told in all social media. You are forcing you ethnic langauge on the rest of Ethiopia and you call us we are ethnicist? how come? you forced me to speak you langauge only? you denied me my own language? now you tell me I am ethnicist? how the hell is this fair? get out of the box of your tribe or ethnic, recognize other people too.

    By the way, where did you come from? if you do not know you are, read your history where you came from and if you can find out who you are? The Tigreans are your own cousin, race, blood, your own ethnic, but you do not like them? Come out, be brave man, you must able to stand infront of men like you? Stop lying, brain-washing innocent citizen with biase, prejudice, hatred, ….

    Recognize others,… stop rejecting others because they do not subscribe to your narrow agenda. Stop telling your agenda the agenda, only yours? get out of the box, break the hard shell around you, break it, break the fear, stand for the truth with courage, stop standing for biase, prejudice, hatred, naming calling,… stop it. Stand for truth, and say the truth.

    If you have good idea, take the podium and dominate the forum instead of lying to people and telling them Gezaee is Woyane, wushetam, a lier, do not lie, do not accuse people falsely, do not blackmail people. Accusing people is a crime? do you know that? It is libel, blakmailing people falsely. Stop this dirty job of yours.

    Anonymous replies:
    July 14th, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    you are rite about that sir that there are some Ethiopians who sadly and suposedly want to get revenage especialy with shaebia. Don’t think woyane is also trying hard to present itself as a sheep in wolf skin by betraying its own shaebia comarades for the fake fantasy of the lone empire of the horn

  43. Dear Mr. Yilma,

    Please I request you to write my name professionally. It is unprofessional, and abusive, disrespectful, unethical to twist the name of people the way you like. Respect people, and write their name properly. This may sound trivial,but it all starts from trivial, if you are professional, act professionally and do not abuse people by abusing thier name. This is my real name. Gezaee H. I do not want you to twist and abuse it, Geeze, you are only exposing yourself that you do not have respect for people whom you do not like their opinion? I want you to learn to respect people if even you do not like the people. Do not twist legal of people like this.

    Thank you

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