Following the recent article by Andargachew Tsige, which has revisited Kinijit’s method of peaceful struggle, there is a growing debate within the Kinijit family about whether it is possible to wage a peaceful struggle in Ethiopia in the face of the extremely repressive measures and brutal tactics that are being used by the ruling Tigrean People Liberation Front (Woyanne) to silence the opposition. The Woyanne went as far as forcing Kinijit leaders to change the party’s name. As a result, several Kinijit parliamentarians and council members are currently in exile. Recently, five prominent Kinijit MPs went to Asmara and they are currently exploring the possibility of establishing provisional Kinijit headquarters in Asmara. The Kinijit leaders in Ethiopia should stay out of this debate if they want to stay out of jail. No body expects them to advocate any thing other than peaceful struggle. In this regard, the recent statement by Wzt. Birtukan Mideksa preaching about peaceful struggle has no useful purpose. Such a debate can and needs to take place among Ethiopians in the Diaspora, since we are free to express our honest views in this matter without fear of getting arrested or killed. In order to facilitate the debate, Ethiopian Review is conducting a poll. Please vote and express your views.
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Yes, I should include all tactics and streategies.
which kinjit? the so called kinjit is in deep civil war! lets alone to wage a war with vampire of addis-the dedebit rats-, it can not even hold its unity!! Now what is needed is new blodd party that supports the arbognoch in the north and fight the weyanes in the language it understands.weyane will continue to stage false elections and claim victories years after years as long as people like ledetu, shawel, dr. beyene and other donkeys are around…so one option left allign urself with arbognoch and fight it out…the rest is just wasting time..
How could Kinijit become successful in defeating Woyane
through a peaceful struggle? A peaceful struggle will work only
for a government that passed or handle power after being elected by the people.
Who elected Woyane? No body. They only are there to loot the Ethiopian property
and repress the people.
I am surprised why a lot of people are losing their hope.There is nothing Wayne fears but peaceful struggle. Kinjit with the leadership of Bertukan is on the verge of massive peaceful struglle that will completely paralize woyanne. Let have a patience or do something on our part to contribute for the struggle. Please do not give up. Do not be the victim of Woyane propaganda. Woyane is surviving only on the mercy of US.
God Bless Ethiopia.
Either way we will beat the hell out of your ass. kkkk
Tiger you are absolutely right. There is no way we can afford another civil war. If we are lucky it is probably going to take us 17 years or more to take down the Woyane Government, so going to war with Woyane means ensuring them another 17 years or more. They are on the verge of collapse right at this moment; they are standing with their one leg, departing from our peaceful straggle means giving Woyane another leg to stand on.
come on guys,how do you choose fighting over peacefull strugle.We haven’t tried the peacefull strugle yet.Let us not forget the bloods shaded in the past.No body will benifit from war.So let us focus only on peace full struggle.
God Bless Ethiopia and her People.
dear Muluadam
the Ethiopian peopple has used all peacefull means to fight woyanne so far and it has never gave result .and you are telling us that the so called peacefull struggle has not been started yet. what kind of game are you trying to play hear ??? do you realy want the woyanne regim to go ?? if so you should not say what ever you sayed . Shame on YOU
Selam Elias et all:
This poll is a poll that should not be run in the first place. Cannot cannot go to armed struggle. If it does THEN IT WILL CEASE TO BE KINIJIT. It is asking a human being if they want to be a monkey.
Those who says that Kinijit goes to armed struggle, they are free to join the OLF, EPRP, EPPF. No-one is holding them.
Therefore since this poll is not a right one, I WILL DECLINE TO PARTICIAPTE. I ASL THOSE WHO SUPPORT KINIJIT TO BOYCOT THIS POLL. :)
Regards,
There is no justification for an armed struggle at this time to help Ethopia out of this dictatorial rule.If all we need is a power then definately we should pickup arms.
But if we care about our future,abut our stability,peace,and unity we then must continue to wege the peacefull struggle only.Armed struggle is the result of ignorance,hate and selfishness.But mature leaders will not go that way.They will not cause the death of poor young Ehiopians inorder to take over power by force.Armed struggle is a justification for others who oppose us to use force and continue the cycle.Kinigit leaders rather use their creative power to come up with a competent peacefull tactics and hammer woyane.
I think the so called peace full straggle doesn’t work with a group or government that is determined to stay on power by killing its opponent. They will never come to table to negotiate with opponents as long as the balance of power tilts in their favor.
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Kinijit has been an organization that stands for a peaceful struggle. What armed groups could not deliver in decades, Kinijit was able to start a movement of peace and democracy. Though its leaders languished for about 2 years, its offices closed, its supporters discouraged by Diaspora incompetent and non-elected leaders …Kinijit has been able to re-organize and assert itself.
Kinijit, now under the name of Andenet, is the only viable organization that has strong base both within and outside Ethiopia. The leadership is currently actively mobilizing Ethiopians all over the regions while its supporters, the North America Kinijit Chapters ET others are the only, world wide grass root support bases.
ER, based on illogical arguments of a former Diaspora Kinijit leader, has questioned the leadership of the rightful leaders in Ethiopia. ER has been advocating a Diaspora Kinijit leadership that may be based in Asmara, under the “protectorate” of Dictator Issayas Afeworki. Such suggestion by ER is an insult to Kinijit and Ethiopiawinet. It is an insult to the peaceful struggle back home. I cannot understand why ER is advocating Kinijit to take the path of OLF/ONLF/EPPF …Such attempts must be fought hard and fiercely resisted.
I therefore ask all supporters of Kinijit to protest such attempts from ER, by sending an e-mail of protest to the editor. I call also you boycott this poll that does not make sense and may be used to justify views that does not reflect the interest of Kinijit.
People have the right to organize themselves in the Diaspora. Those former Kinijit leaders have the right to change their strategy of struggles. However, they must be told that they cannot speak for Kinijit. If armed struggle is taken out from within Kinijit, then it will cease to exit.
Few things have to be specifically mentioned:
1. If we say that the tactics should be changed, the question is “Change to what”?
2. Ato Andargachew, in his article said, “ye amets tigil”. But he didn’t specify that. May be he will do so in his next article. The question is what do you me by that?
a. is it about armed struggle?
b. urban warfare?
or what?
Unless these questions are addressed correctly there is no need to discuss about changing tactics.
Thanks
By far, peaceful struggle is the best and a proven method of defeating a formidable enemy.
In War no benifet for all but efective peacefull struggle with best quality leader with guiding people and strugling win EPRDF with in few months
1:Good leader ..he /she don’t fear EPRDF in peaceful strugle ,and expressing his/her feeling about Demcracy,good governor,and Justice.After that contribute to lead the people and other also support his/her idea and reflecting it for the people.Reflecting current life condition ,past and future expressing it well for people any where .creat small group as a cell in each village to know his/her country condition well.Give the people exact informatoion how EPRDF damages country and his lovely country
3: Tell the people about Unity in charches,peoplic socity and around the vilage
3:Guiding some solider and security forces inside and changing there mind whatever method used systmatically.
4:
Last not least I adviced if you are a leader lead the people in every direction the peacefull struggle creates unless otherwise the change is occared .
May be people died now,past and future but every country change comes from some people died for freedom .
When you lead people in this strugle may be you ll be died so if you are leader decided on it otherwise please don’t be leader.
Last time people died ,now also people died,in the future also people died.
Please see this coment if you lead the people
We are eager for the chane
I lived in addis and we are in worest and worest condition.We are ready for strugel hoepfully we ll do it in short we are in Slave time,we are in anger,we are not able to live,we can’t control things over and over..this time is worest and worst…people died without getting food… Everybody needs Change so please ready for change.
Have you think far ahead what will happen in the future if we win Woyane with armed struggle? I don’t think a group who win a government thruogh gun will sustain democracy. I don’t trust any rebel group will bring democracy after winnig its oppenent even Kinijit or the new Unity for democracy justice. I would prefer to see the creation of democracy through peaceful striggle evolution what so ever it takes long time.
Elias,
I see some contradictions in what you wrote above – you said:
“The Kinijit leaders in Ethiopia should stay out of this debate if they want to stay out of jail. No body expects them to advocate any thing other than peaceful struggle. . . . Such a debate can and needs to take place among Ethiopians in the Diaspora, since we are free to express our honest views in this matter without fear of getting arrested or killed.”
If you say that the leaders in Ethiopia are excluded from this then the supporters in Diaspora are to be excluded too. If the Diaspora supports a means of struggle other than peaceful, their choice of tactic will hold the leaders in Ethiopia accountable. Because being a chapter member of Kinijit in Diaspora, one cannot go any way that is not supported by the party in Addis. I think trying to go both ways will hurt the leaders more than it will help.
I have never any doubt whatsoever about the best way to bring the Weyane animals to their knees from day one. It is very clear. I know most of us are depressingly slow learners. If we can’t learn in 18 years, I don’t know how long is enough for us to learn. Unless a struggle against the Weyanes breaks their confidence in using violence, it will never succeed.
If one wants to demolish a house, the most effective method is to destroy the foundations that carries most of the weight of the house. The same is true in political wars. If we really are serious to send the Weyane killers to jail or give them a scholarship to hell ( I have no doubt they will go to hell when all of them die) is to effectively destroy the one foundation they all rely on- an armed violence. A determined and a heroic armed struggle is the only sure way to put them away. Believe me friends, I have never been a fan of an armed struggle. The Weyanes, after observing them for 18 years, convinced me the necesity of raising arms against them against my will. Trust me. Nothing will put them away except a well-funded, determined,and aggressive armed struggle. Trust me. Let us not waste another twenty years day dreaming.
For me the main question should be who and when. First, it won’t be Kinijit. I think Kinijit should continue its peaceful struggle. They can carry it for another twenty years. I can guarantee you nothing will change. I think we should support EPPF as well as OLF massively to intensify the armed struggle at this time.
we came a long way. if you ask this very question just a few months ago, no more than 10 to 20% would support armed struggle. after factoring out the votes by woyanne in this poll, an overwhelming majority seems to be supporting military action.
Andargachew was the architect of the Kinijit victory in 2005 at the ballot box, and he is now strategizing a campaign for victory against TPLF by other means. No wonder woyanne is scared of him to death.
I think this is too much too soon Elias! It was in a very bad taste for you to propose Issayas Afeworki as ‘ER’s Man of the Year!’ and now this. One thing people fail to understand is this; there are all manners of armed factions out there fighting the TPLF even as we speak. The only reason we don’t hear much about them is, because they are as effective as a cat slapping an elephant. And they will remain so until they unite their manpower and resources into a single formidable front. Some of these so called armed fronts do exist only in the figments of imaginations of their field marshals in Paris and London.
And there were all sorts of groupings trying to wage peaceful struggle against the TPLF too. The only reason why Kinijit alone was able to capture the hearts and imaginations of Ethiopians was because of its timely message and the UNITY FACTOR (four small and weak parties merging into a single GIANT). Ethiopians, both at home and the Diaspora are sick and tired of the plethora of political groupings (parties) with all sorts of programs vying for their limited resources and attention. All they want is all these little mini parties to merge into one effective political machine under a very strong leadership with a meaningful political program under the banner of freedom and unity for Ethiopians in Ethiopia. Nothing else would do. This was the main reason people flocked into Kinjit in droves before and after the 2005 election. They all thought, it is about time that a party of such stature and wisdom should arise over the ashes of all our political failings of the past forty years.
We had our setbacks, thanks to Hailu Shawl and company, not to mention TPLF and Lidetu Ayalew. I think the core Kinjit Party (UDJP) lead by Bertukan Mideksa’s steadfast and wise leadership is in a very good shape and it needs all the support we could muster to effect the changes that we would like to see in our beloved Ethiopia. This is neither the time nor the place to rattle tattle about change of tactics. This is neither the time nor the place to lose hope and focus on the Kinjit Manifesto and vision. The only way that I could see Kinijit fail will be, if and only if we fail Kinjit.
The easiest way to fail Kinjit will be to inject wedge issues like armed struggle from the sideline, without properly consulting the party and its leadership in the first place. Do you really think all those brave men and women like Bertukan, Dr. Yacob, Dr. Hailu, Ato Seleshi, Ato Eyoel , Professor Mesfin, Ato Kifle Tigneh and all the others will be wasting their times and ours, if they thought for one second that ‘The Chance for Peaceful Struggle in Ethiopia is Dead’ ? Then why in God’s name are we so impatient as to give peaceful struggle a decent chance to succeed? I mean the people who are facing the TPLF beast are not that hopeless. Why are we then in such a hurry to raise arms (I am taking a leap of faith here in assuming all the proponents of armed struggle will be heading to the bushes and mountains of Ethiopia including Ato Andargachew of course)?
Please don’t get me wrong here, I have great respect for Ato Andargachew and I immensely enjoy reading his incisive and intelligent analysis. Apropos Andargachew Tsige, there is one issue that bothering me; does he still consider himself a member of Kinjit (lalay mikirbet)? If yes, then what does the Kinjit bylaw say about a party member proposing a tactical change in an open to everyone forum, without first getting the party’s advice and consent, not to mention the party leadership? I mean isn’t this the type of behavior that we used to condemn in Hailu Shawl only a couple of months ago?
I know the proponents of the armed struggle want Kinjit to change its manifesto and mission statement and become an armed front like OLF, EPPF, ONLF etc. I believe here the calculation is, since Kinjit was reasonably successful in the peaceful struggle, it will be equally and wildly successful in the armed struggle too. Does anyone see the logic here? I DON’T. My plea to all red blooded Ethiopians out there is this: Please leave Kinjit out of this mess. Kinjit is the hope of 70 millions Ethiopians and it is just about to stand on its own feet. If you really want to Kick Woyanie’s ass, you don’t need anyone’s permission or blessings you know. Just get up and get on with it!
None of the two strategies can make ‘Kinijit’ successful in taking over power from ‘Woyane’. However, both strategies can defeat ‘Woyane’ if and only if an effective mechanism is created to coordinate the fragmented struggle of the people, which is going on through out the country using all possible means. This coordination is essential not only to defeat ‘Woyane’ but also to ensure long lasting peace and stability.
The Diaspora should not west precious time on arguing on the choice of strategies. Because the choice of strategy has been made depending on how individuals and groups evaluate the viability of available options, it would be impossible to convince the entire population in one single strategy.
In fact, it doesn’t make sense to expect the officially registered Kinijit/Andnet to consider the option of ‘Armed Struggle’. However, regarding the Diaspora, I feel that in addition to supporting a single party of our choices, we should give emphasis to the much wider role of long term peace and stability. If we fail to coordinate the fragmented struggle of the people in time, it will end up disintegrating the nation. So, it is very important to focus on coordination before it is too late. Unless we are able to preserve the nation all our efforts will be in vain, and there will be no nation to be ruled by this or that party.
God Bless Ethiopia
I completely disagree with the idea of armed struggle in our land. we just cant take it anymore no matter what.Trust me the people at home are also tired of wars and all that despite their frustration over the ruling party. If our leaders[kinijit] are still determined to achieve their goals there are less violent methods than war.once they decided to lead the party they should be ready to pay whatever it takes. I think thats what Dr.Yacob asserted last time; he said that they will call strikes, peaceful demonstrations when it is necessary.Therefore, I suggest we start pressuring the leaders so that they start coming forward and face the TPLF regime with out fear.
Dear readers,
Please remember that some of the comments are flooding from the TPLF gangsters who want to see no group with weapons as that is what they don’t want to see. TPLF leaders know that political parties who do not have an army can easily be silenced through different methods such as terrorizing their supporters. The only way to demolish Woyanes and their arrogant supporters is through military means.
We have to get the facts straight. It is absolutely unquestionable that peaceful struggle is far better than armed struggle. How come one set a comparison peace and armed struggles in the first place? Here is the real question rather. Has armed struggle been feasible against TPLF???
My answer: Not at all!
You can not have a real and functioning opposition party in Ethiopia. TPLF has made sure not that to exist. Those elected oppositions MPS are simply serving TPLF and themselves, a means to live for them, period. Whether you like it or not, there are only two possibilities remaining to save Ethiopia from TPLF dogs.
1. Armed stuggle.
2. If something wrong happens with in the TPLF camp itself.
We have to go for the first if we really want to have freedom. The rest are simply cyber games!!
Dear Ato Elias Kifle,
As always, many thanks for providing the lead by creating this topic and the poll forum. I attach my comments from the EMF, RE Armed struggle:
BIRI YAYA Says:
March 16th, 2008 at 4:55 am
The debate as to what form of struggle Ethiopians could use to promote democracy, to establish an all-inclusive transparent/accountable system of government to replace the repressive minority based TPLF/EPRDF regime was initiated by Ato Andargachew Tsige. But no where do I read Andargachew actually promoting a particular method other than stating the obvious that the route through a ‘peaceful engagement from within’ the current fully monopolised political space by the TPLF regime is not available at all to those who seek to get access.
In that context, Andargachew seem to make a case for consideration by Ethiopians of a broader approach to minimise sacrifices. I think he is right in this assessment.
Those who responded to Andargachew’s went over the board to state that there is only one route to fighting for democracy in Ethiopia, i.e. a ‘peaceful struggle’, but we are not told what political space they have in mind in this regard.
Someone went even further to deride the ANC’S aspect of a military resistance. In this respect, I have argued else-where that a review of the ANC’s military or armed struggle contribution requires a deeper and better appreciation than a simple ’statement of fact’ from distantant corners by those who were not party to the struggle in South Africa. Further, I stated that neither the apartheid regime nor the ANC has ever made a determination as to how effective or otherwise the armed resistance part of the South Africans’ struggle against the racist state and its policies was.
Coincidentally, as I was searching surfing webs for something relevant, I have located an interesting Press Release on the significance of the ANC’S armed struggle(please see below).
In summary, I argue that we will have to accept that armed struggle has its own contributions to make especially where the state in question is unresponsive to other forms of legitimate resistance/the struggle for democracy:-
—– Forwarded Message —-
From: Biri Yaya
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:33:45 AM
Subject: [Ethiopians-Forum] SOUTH AFRICA: FROM PASSIVE RESISTANCE TO ARMED STRUGGLE
FROM PASSIVE RESISTANCE TO ARMED STRUGGLE
[Press Release of the Irish Anti-Apartheid Movement, February 24, 1987]
“Resistance by non violent means alone became untenable in South Africa where Mahatma Gandhi launched his first passive resistance movement (null) eighty years ago because the successive racist regimes and white vigilantes showed no hesitation to kill peaceful demonstrators and the western world was not outraged by the killings of Africans. Strange as it may seem, it was by undertaking armed struggle that the African National Congress (null) was able to avert uncontrolled violence and terrorism, and save lives, including the lives of the whites” in the view of null null from India, a former Assistant Secretary-General of the United Nations in charge of its Centre Against Apartheid. He was delivering a lecture on “Passive Resistance to Armed Struggle” under the auspices of the Irish Anti Apartheid Movement to mark the null Anniversary of the African National Congress.
“Terrorism would have been a normal reaction of the African people when they were frustrated after decades of non violent struggle. The white minority community was and remains vulnerable, whatever its military might. It was the faith of Nelson Mandela and other leaders that a non racial society can be built with world support that has so far averted a carnage.”
“The current attempts by conservatives in the United States to boost discredited rival groups will strengthen the intransigence of the Pretoria regime. It is only when the right of the South African people to rebellion against tyranny and oppression is recognised that efforts to avert a bloodbath can be seriously pursued. Sanctions remain the most effective measure to promote negotiations between whites and blacks willing to live in a non racial society.”
Mr Reddy expressed disappointment at the continued hesitation of Ireland and other smaller countries to recognise the legitimacy of’ the struggle by the oppressed people by all means open to them under racist tyranny. “Recognition of the right is not incitement and it has become imperative to persuade the Pretoria regime to see reason.”
Reviewing the freedom movement in South Africa since the establishment of the ANC in 1912, he paid tribute to the ANC for developing non violent resistance as a means of struggle for liberation both before and after the ANC abandoned its strict adherence to non violence.
“Even today, the struggle by the African people is mostly non violent and the total number of persons killed in guerrilla warfare is a tiny fraction of those killed by the police and the South African war machine.
“The Pretoria regime and its friends have played up the killing of some informers by enraged youth in the African townships and accuse the ANC of terrorism for not condemning them.”
Mr Reddy recalled that in 1942 Mahatma Gandhi refused to condemn those who were provoked to sabotage and violence in India in the face of leonine violence by the authorities.
Mr Pat Carroll replied to Mr Reddy’s address. The Chairman of the meeting was the Revd Terence P. McCaughey, President of the Irish Anti Apartheid Movement.
Elias
critical comment, take a deep breath :)
What a poll is this! The question asks should kinijit change its peaceful method but there are only two choices. No problem as long as these choices are clear. obviously the choices should have been between peaceful struggle and armed struggle. However, intentionally or otherwise
it has been made very ambiguous.
1) The first choice says yes it should use all means available. What does all means mean? armed struggle, civil disobedience, armed insurrection, non- parliamentary illegal work, terrorism? and what and who determines what is available and what is not?
2) A third choice like this one must have been a must. – yes kinijit should change from peaceful struggle to armed struggle – to make a clear distinction between those who favour armed struggle and those who do not. More choices like these below
kinijit should
– move over to armed struggle completely
– should create a secret armed wing while in parliament
– should boycott parliament and create a secret army
Etc…
3) A fourth choice should have been there to differentiate between those who stand for parliamentary struggle and those who want non-parliamentary struggle (both are non-violent struggles), so we would have had,
– kinijit should
1) use only parliamentary struggle
2) use only non-parliamentary struggle (boycott parliament and do illegal work)
3) use both parliamentary and non-parliamentary struggle.
So, both peaceful struggle and armed (violent) struggle has to be divided by type and combinations of the different types created carefully (the above is just an example) for the multiple choice. The poll as it is stands will not give us a clear answer and it falsely favours armed struggle as the poll result indicates.
Peaceful struggle for democratic change is the only potent weapon to defeat the enemy. The icon Birtukan is absolutely right in her analysis. Armed struggle in the 21st century is anachronistic – an old way of replacing one dictator for another.
Why is ER so keen and so fast in discounting the peaceful approach of Birtukan and her colleagues from the debate? Does opening an office in Asmara really bring Ethiopia’s past glory back with the consent of Isaias?
No,they must learn from Kenia.War is expensive even for
rich countries.Our country has got enough problems already.They are suppossed to share Power with the government.That is the best to our country.
Nobody is perfect.The government did a mistake & the opposition did a mistake.
no peace- no investors-no economic growth.
You could try it and you will get your value. You will be beaten your ass. After all you are a donkey (aheya). How on earth could a donkey understand with out beating its ass? Let alone you, the dismantled kinijit (better to say kibijit) we managed to destroy “derge” your big ancestor. You are buried deep not to revive again.
Try your best to get the worst in return.
It is becomimg increasingly clear that the totalitarian regime of Meles Zenawi would never give up political power through the ballot box. Meles Zenawi has been cashing in on farce elections and the existence of ineffective or loyal opposition. He has been using the tactic of calling bogus elections and allocating some seats to the fake opposition groups so that he could use them as showcases in securing financial and other forms of assiatnce. Any way the country must be made ungovernable to Meles Zenawi and his western masters must feel insecure in Ethiopia. The flow of money to the coffers of Meles Zenawi can be disrupted and he can be weakened or even toppled if we increase the heat on him through destabilizing the situation in Ethiopia. We need to look to the Kenyan opposition who stood their ground and achieved a lot. The purpose of having a genuine opposition should be to abolish tyranny and ushere us into an era of democracy and freedom using all the plausible means in consultation with the public. It is time go for a serious public consultation and discussion concerning this issue.
I see alot helpless woyannes pissing in their pants, fearing the consequences of armed struggle for woyane!!!
I always advocated ARMED STRUGGLE because that is the only way to get rid of brutal woyanne. Woyane is going to build a 10 story building for office purpose, the sheik is going to make the largest investment venture in ethiopia ever…these are indicators that woyane has planned to play around its dirty game of rigging 4-5 election results. That meanse woyane planned to stay inpower for atleast 20–30 more years in ethiopia!!! alas.
there is no way kinijit can stop this with peaceful struggle, even they are embarrasing the newly formed ANDNET right at the outset.
THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN WOYANNE, ARMED STRUGGLE IS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE!
LETS GIVE IT A TRY!
I think we have to be open to any kind of debate such as Ato Andargachew’S views. I do not believe that he made this kind of idea because he wanted to abandon peaceful struggle,but he wanted, I think to air his case that people have the right to resort to non-peaceful struggle if and when they believe that all other means were pushed aside by the dictators. I do not beleive that strategists and political analysts should always be pacifists.
I think in my humble opinion we should stick with our peaceful straggle. I have many reasons why I said to stay with this course. The main reason is losing the younger generation for war; when are we going to take out war from our vocabulary. Haven’t we lost enough human life in the past? Just think for second how many people we lost from 1998 to 2000, we lost more that 100,000 young folks and more than 10 billion dollars. Is that not enough?
Ok, let forget about the human life and resource we are losing for this straggle; let’s think for second, EPPF, OLF or ONLF succeeded and over throw the Woyane government do you really trust them to bring democracy to our people? In my personal opinion absolutely not! Let’s not forget for a minute these parties are supported by Shabya government. Shabya will never in million years wish peace and democracy for our people. Our people get democracy means a big threat for the Shabya government; the reason is because his people are going to ask democracy in their home country as well. So, don`t expect anything from these parties.
I know most of these parties promise us they will bring peace and democracy to our people, what if they don`t? What if they are worst than Woyane? Are we going to spend the rest of our life in fighting? “Kemayakute Meleake Yemiyakute Saytane Yeshalale”
let every organization strugle as they want but stop critisising other methods.
our enemy is not peacefulstruggle or armstrugle but killer weyane.
I dont disagree with those who want to gain thier demand including freedom and democracy through armed stuggle. However, when we do armed struggle woyane wouldn’t send its tigrians troops to the battle filed. woyane sends our own brothers and sisters to fight each other with the weapons that was given by the US, so woyane doesnt loose nothing may be until the end if the rebel would get the chance to control the arat kilo palace, that is when woyane would put his tigrian life savers to protect him. So, the rebel group could easily destroyed. woyane doesnt care if his troops are dying as he doesnt care in somalia region. I strongly beleive with the best sniper that can attack the woyane officials in urban areas, so that the woyane banda caderes would run away and woyane would also give a big place for those who want to bring change through peaceful struggle method. that is when the peaceful stuggle can be strongly supported.
Fight if u have the balls, that is the only means. The twisted minds didnt understand even after 2005,surprising.
we have to follow they Kenya happend
Kinijit must stick to it’s peaceful struggle, but what we need is a parallel underground organisation to close the gap which the peaceful means can not cover. The peaceful/unpeaceful means must be handled in one organisational structure from the perspective of diaspora but two in Ethiopia.
This discussion is not fair at the time the leaders are trying to put every thing in place. If kinijit has to decide its way of struggle it must come from within. Those people trying to design strategy for the party must consult with the leaders and be dicided by majority vote. Not by one man or two (just like HS). This is not democracy. Please leave the leaders alone or come and convince from inside
We got to evaluate our power of thinking. If any one of you think that peaceful struggle is working in ethiopia, you belong to one of the following circles.
Circle one:you have not really understood TPLF and the politics in Ethiopia. Yo
Circle two: you belong to the TPLF camp
Cicle three: you are an opposition who have been seeking freedom simply by wishing it. You are not interested in working for it for various reasons.
Take a deep breath and evalute your power of thinking
I Strictly advice the Kinijit (Andinet) leaders to stick to peaceful struggle. Because, our time is a modern time where peaceful struggle is the only means of toppling down such tyrranical leaders like Meles Zenawi. So, I disagree with the idea of Ato Andargachew. Please, Ato Andargachew,take time to think of peaceful struggle & return to your heart. On the other hand, I advice Birtukan and all the council members of Unity for Justice & Democracy Party to embrace all Ethiopians under the umbrella of the party. Then, God will help us in all of our efforts. Lastly, I want to say few words to Wzt. Birtukan. “Birtukan, we love you all since you are a strong woman like Etege Tayitu. Continue with your peaceful struggle. After getting the certificate from the so called “NEB”, discuss with the population especially, the population of Addis. As an Orthodox, I am against your wordings of the regime of HaileSillassie, I. Because he has done his best during his time. Eventhough there are some wrong doings during his time, his being with God has at least maintained the Unity of Ethiopia. Since, our country is the country of the Almighty God, Holy Virgin Mary and Saints, pray always to God so that God will be with you as King Solomon, the son of David. By the way, I was only 6 years old while Hailesillassie was toppled down from his throne”.
God Bless Ethiopia and UJDP.
ከዶ/ር ያዕቆብ ኃይለማርያም
Ethiopia Zare (ዓርብ መጋቢት 5 ቀን 2000 ዓ.ም. March 14,2008)፦ የኢትዮጵያ ፌደራላዊ ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሪፑብሊክ ሕገ መንግሥት አንቀጽ 29፣ ግለሰቦችም ሆኑ ፕሬስ ወይንም ሌሎች መገናኛ ብዙኀን ሃሳባቸውን በነፃ የመግለጽ ተፈጥሮአዊ መብት ያረጋግጥላቸዋል። የአሜሪካ ሕገ መንግሥት እነዚህን መብቶች ከማረጋገጥ አልፎ እንዲያውም ኮንግሬስ ይህንን መብት ለመገደብ ሕግ ሊያወጣ እንደማይችል ይደነግጋል። ይህ የንግግርና የጽሁፍ ነፃነት ይህን ያህል ዋጋ የሚሰጠው ያለ ፕሬስ ነፃነት ዲሞክራሲና የተመጣጠነ ክብር ያለው ኑሮ ለመኖር የሚያስችል ልማት ፈጽሞ የማይታሰብ በመሆኑ ነው። የፕሬስ ነፃነት መዳበር ወይንም መቀጨጭ አንድ አገር በሥልጣኔ ምን ያህል ወደፊት እንደመጠቀ ወይንም ምን ያህል ወደ ኋላ እንደቀረ የሚጠቁም ነው።
ማንኛውም መብት ግዴታን እንደሚያስከትል ሁሉ የሌላውን መብት ለማስከበርና ለመጠበቅ ሲባል በፕሬስ ነፃነት ላይ በሕግ በተደነገገው መሠረት ገደብ ሊጣልበት ይችላል። ሕግ ለፕሬስ ነፃነት ይህን ያህል ጥበቃ የሚያደርግለት፣ የንግግርና የጽሑፍ ነፃነት ተፈጥሮአዊ መብት ከመሆን አልፎ ሕዝብን ስለሚያስተምር፣ ስለሚያሳውቅና ስለሚያዝናና ነው። ከእነዚህ የተቀደሱ ተግባራት ወጥቶ የሰውን መልካም ስም በሃሰት በሚያጠፋበት ጊዜ ወይንም ሕብረተሰቡን የሚጎዱ ተግባራት ለምሳሌ በብሔረሰቦች መሃከል ጥላቻ እንዲፈጠር በሚያነሳሳበት ጊዜ ወይንም ጦርነትን በሚቀሰቅሱ ተግባራት በተሰማራ ጊዜ ከድርጊቶቹ እንዲታቀብ ከዚያም ሲያልፍም በወንጀል ተከስሶ ሊቀጣ ይችላል።
በሃገራችን በአሁኑ ወቅት ጋዜጦች የተለየ ሃገራዊ ኃላፊነት አለባቸው። እስከ ቅርብ ጊዜ አንዳንድ ኃላፊነት የጎደላቸው ጋዜጦች እስኪንዱት ድረስ በጋዜጣ የወጣ ማንኛውም ዜና ፍጹም ተዓማኒነት ነበረው። አገራችን በአሁኑ ወቅት በፖለቲካ አመለካከትና ወገንተኛነት፣ በአይዲኦሎጂ፣ በመደብና በዘር ክፉኛ የተከፋፈለች አገር ስትሆን እርስ በርስ መጠራጠር፣ መናናቅ በተለያዩ ምክንያቶች ላይ የተንጠላጠሉ ጥላቻዎች እየተስፋፉ ነው። ስለዚህ ገዢው ፓርቲና ተቃዋሚዎች ሕዝብን የማግባባት እና በፖሊስ ላይ ብቻ ያተኰረ የሰለጠነና ሠላማዊ ፍልሚያና ፉክክር እንዲያደርጉ ማበረታታት፣ ጥላቻ ብዙውን ጊዜ የሚከሰተው ሌላውን ወገን ካለማወቅ ስለሆነ ህዝቡን ማስተዋወቅ፣ ገበሬውና ሠራተኛው ለሥራ ማነሳሳት፣ የመንግሥት አካላት በሕዝብ ላይ የሚፈጽሙት በደል ቆፍሮ አውጥቶ ማጋለጥ የመሳሰሉ አገራዊ ጉዳዮች ላይ ማተኰር ይኖርባቸዋል። ለጹሁፌ መነሻ ወደሆነኝ ጉዳይ ልመልሳችሁ በዚህ ሰሞን መውጣት የጀመረ አንድ ጋዜጣ ነው። ጋዜጣው በተከታታይ ሁለት እትሞቹ በእኔ በአንድ ተራ ዜጋ ላይ ከባድና ሃሰተኛ ወንጀል ማዥጎድጎዱን ተያይዞታል። 60 ከሚጠጉት ከቀድሞው ቅንጅት የአመራር አባላት እኔን መርጦ ከባድ የሃሰት ወንጀል ሊለድፍብኝ መነሳሳቱ ከማስገረም በስተቀር አላስደነገጠኝም። ነገር ግን ምንም ያልጠበቅሁትና ያላለምኩት ሌባ ዝናብ ሆነብኝ።
«ከብት ባልዋለበት ኩበት ለቀማ» በሚሉት ዓይነት ዘመድ ለመጠየቅ ዓይኔን ለመታከም አሜሪካ በዘለቅሁበት ጊዜ ከዶ/ር ብርሃኑ ነጋ ሌላ በአካልም ሆነ በሌላ መልኩ ፍጹም ያልተገናኘኋቸው ሰዎችንም ሆነ ድርጅቶች አግኝቼ ከእነርሱ ጋር ተሰብስቤ አገራችንን በጦርነት ለማናወጥ ተስማምቼ ለዚህ ተግባር በእነዚሁ አካላትና ግለሰቦች ተወክዬ ወደ አገሬ መመለሴን ጽፎአል። ጋዜጣው ጥረቱ ለእኔ ፍጹም በማይገባኝ ምክንያት በአገር ክህደት ወንጀል ተከስሼ የዕድሜ ልክ እሥራት ተፈርዶብኝ ስለነበረ፤ አሁንም ይህንኑ የአገር ክህደት ወንጀል የለጠፈብኝ ቀደም ሲል በተከሰሰበት ወንጀል ተሰማርቶአል በማለት ይቅርታው ተሰርዞ ወህኒ ቤት እንድወርድ ለመገፋፋት ነው የሚል ሃሳብ አጫረብኝ። ከዚህ መለስ ካለም በውንጀላው ተደናግጬ አገር ለቅቄ እንድሰደድ ይሆን ስልም አሰብኩ። በዚህ መሠረት ቢስ ውንጀላ ዘብጥያ ብወርድ ለመከላከል የማደርገው ነገር የለም። አገሬን ለቅቄ የትም እንደማልሄድና በአገሬ ዴሞክራሲ ሰፍኖ የሕግ ልዕልና ተከብሮ ሕዝባችን ለሰው ልጅ ተገቢ የሆነ ክብር ያለው ኑሮ እንዲኖር የአቅሜ አስተዋጽኦ ለማድረግ የገባሁት ቃል መቼም አላጥፈውምና የትም አልሄድም። ጠንካራ ተቃዋሚ መኖር ዘለቄታነት ላለው ዴሞክራሲና ለልማት እጅግ በጣም አስፈላጊ በመሆናቸው ፓርቲያችንን ለማጠናከር ከመሥራት አሁንም አልቦዝንም። እቅጩም ይኸው ነው።
አንድን ሰላማዊ ዜጋ በእንደዚህ ዓይነቱ መሠረተ ቢስ ክስ መወንጀል አንድም «ጌታዋን የተማመነች በግ ጅራቷን ውጭ ታሳድራለች» ከሚለው የመነጨ ወይንም ደግሞ አንድ ሊቅ እንዳለው «ምሁራን ስለረቂቅ ሃሳቦች ሲጽፍ «ሌሎች» ደግሞ ስለሰው ሃሜታ መጻፍ ይወዳሉ» የሚለው ብቻ ይሆናል። በዚህ ጽሁፍ በተሰነዘረብኝ ሃሰትና ከባድ ወንጀል በምርመራ ተጣርቶ ክስ እንዲመሠረትልኝ መጠየቅ እችል ነበር። ውጤቱ ከወዲሁ ግልጽ ስለሆነ ስለ ነፃ ፕሬስ አስፈላጊነት ባለኝ ጽኑ እምነት ምክንያት ጋዜጦች ተከስሰው በሚጽፉት እንዲሸማቀቁ አስተዋጽኦ ማድረግ አልፈልግም።
ሌላው ክስ የተቃዋሚ ፓርቲዎችን ለማስተባበር ዶ/ር ነጋሶን፣ ፕሮፌሠር በየነን፣ ዶ/ር መራራንና አቶ ቡልቻን በተለያዩ ወቅት አነጋግሮአል የሚል ነው። እነዚህን ግለሰቦች ሁሉንም ስለማውቃቸው አንዳንዴ ለመዝናናት አንዳንዴም በአገራችን ጉዳይ ለማውራት በተለያዩ ጊዜዎች አግኝቼአቸዋለሁ። እነርሱን ለማስተባበር አቅሙም ሆነ ኃላፊነቱ የለብኝም እንጂ ባስተባብራቸው ወንጀልም ባልሆነ ነበር።
ከቅንጅት አንኳር መርሆዎች አንዱ ለዴሞክራሲ፣ ለነፃነትና ለፍትሕ ታግሎ በነፃና በሰላማዊ ውድድር በሕዝብ ነፃ ውሳኔ ሥልጣንን መያዝ ወይንም ከሌሎች ፓርቲ/ፓርቲዎች ጋር ሥልጣንን መጋራት ነው።
የቅንጅት አመራሮች በኢትዮጵያ የፖለቲካ መድረክ ብቅ ካሉበት ጊዜ ጀምሮ በተገኙት መድረኮችና አጋጣሚዎች ሁሉ ሳይታክቱ አገራችን ከጦርነትና እርስ በእርስ ከመጠፋፋት አዙሪት መውጣት እንዳለባት ሲሰብኩና ሲያስተምሩ ኖረዋል። በአገራችን፣ ሥልጣን በኃይል መነጣጠቅ ምን ያህል እንደጎዳ እና በልማት ወደኋላ ለመቅረታችን ዋና ዋና ምክንያቶች አንዱ መሆኑ በሕዝብና በመሪዎቹ አእምሮ እንዲቀረጽ ቅንጅት ብዙ ጥሮአል።
በፖለቲካ አመለካከት ልዩነት አንድ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሌላውን፣ ወንድሙን፣ እህቱን የሚገድልበት ምክንያት የለም። ሁለት ኢትዮጵያውያን በግልም ይሁን በቡድን በመግባባት በውይይት ሊፈቱት የማይችሉት ምንም የፖለቲካ ልዩነት ሊኖር አይችልም ወይንም ሊኖር አይገባም። ጠመንጃና ጥይት አገርን ለሚወር ብቻ መዋል አለበት። የትጥቅ ትግል መንግሥትን ለመለወጥ ቢያስችል ወይንም የትጥቅ ትግል ቢሳካ እንኳን ብዙ ጊዜ ፈጅቶ፣ ብዙ ንብረት ወድሞእና ብዙ ሰው በተለይ ወጣቱ አልቆ በተፋላሚ ወገኖች ላይ ዘላለማዊ ጠላትነት ተክሎ ነው የሚሆነው ከዚህ ቀደም እንደታየው በትጥቅ ትግል የተገኘ ድል አንድን መንግሥት ከመገልበጥ ውጭ ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሥርዓት የወለደበት ሁኔታ አለ ማለት አይቻልም። ሆ ቺ ሚንና ማኦ ዜ ዱንግ አገራቸውን ከኢምፔሪያሊስቶች ክራንቻ ሊያላቅቁ ቢችሉም ዘላቂና ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሥርዓት ሊመሠርቱ ግን አልቻሉም። የሙሴቬኒ፣ የካጋሜ፣ የመለስ፣ የኢሣያስ የትጥቅ ትግል ድሎችም ከዚህ የተለዩ ውጤት አላሳዩም። ደቡብ አፍሪቃውያን ነፃ ወጥተው ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሥርዓት የመሠረቱት ትግላቸው በመሳሪያ ኃይል ቢታገዝም ዋነኛው የትግል ስልታቸው ግን ሰላማዊ ነበር። ስለዚህ የትጥቅ ትግል ለዘለቄታዊ ዴሞክራሲ ሊያበቃ የሚችለውን ሰላማዊውን ትግል ስለሚያዘናጋ እና ስለሚያቀጭጭ በአገራችን የትጥቅ ትግል የሚያካሄዱ ሁሉ ወደ ሰላማዊው ትግል ቢገቡ ይበጃል የሚል ጽኑ እምነት አለኝ።
ከኢሕአዴግና ከደጋፊዎቹ ጋር አንዳንድ የፖለቲካ ልዩነት ያለውን ሰው ወይንም ድርጅቶች በጠላትነት ፈርጀ ማስፈራራት ሲያልፍም ማጥፋት ጊዜያዊ እፎይታ ይሸምት እንደሆነ እንጂ ዘላቂነት የለውም። ከመጠፋፋት፣ ከመጠላላት፣ ከመናቆር የተሻሉ መነጋገር፣ መግባባት፣ ሰጥቶ መቀበል የመሳሰሉ ጥሩ አማራጮች አሉ። ጋዜጦችም ቢሆኑ የአንዳንዶችን ቀልብ ለመሳብና የግል ጥቅም ለማግኘት በማሰብ ሞያዊ ግዴታቸውን ወደ ጎን ትተው በግለሰቦች ላይ የሃሰት ውንጀላ ከማናፈስ ይልቅ ለህብረተሰቡ ችግር ዘላቂ መፍትሄ ሊያስገኙ የሚችሉ የመፍትሄ ሃሳቦች ላይ ትኩረት ሊሰጡ ይበጃል እላለሁ።
http://www.ethiomedia.com wrote: ACTIONS AGAINST ER
this is an UNacceptable, becuse this is a poll to hear the opinion of people, why boycott? THese ethiomedia are jeleous of ER. Viva ER
Wayane has killed and burried Cuds peacefull movement, jailed them for the criminal wayane itself committed. according to wayane government Cud leaders signed and took responsiblity for all mess. after this time kinigit have only three alternative:
1. Joining chamisso and Temesgen groupe and seating in wayane parliament as a Roboat.
2. Distansing themselves from any political movement.
3. Changing the strategy and intensify all necessary means of strugle.
After analysing the fact on the ground, I personally support number three.
Death to tyranny, God bless our people and country
what so ever you do menelik palace stays under our
control for the comming 100years.
DEAR MR. Elias if you want a genuine poll
1)You shuld remain abstainee,but according to your recent posts you are supporting the non violence means.as a result nobody could believe your poll result.
2)The question to your poll asks if kinijit should stck to the peace full method,but the poll result shows No it should stick to peace full method and
Should youth both. What does this mean? I expected the result to be NO 50 pct or YES 30 pct or what ever.
You reminded me the Weyane /EPLF referendem.
okay. all I said, It stick to peace full method.
CUD with out considering all sorts of struggle is just another version of ANDM, who is serving the will of Weyane. Today Weyane is the prince of peace for it knows armed struggle is against its interest! Any organization preaching a value which is also preached by Weyane is pro Weyane! Weyane preaches “only peacefull method of struggle”, and if Kinijit does the same, it is the servant of Weyane!! If it is a simple tactical expression as Aadde Birtukan is doing, it is well and fine. But other branch of Kinijit in diaspora is needed which galvanizes also armed struggle! CUD needs to lean from OLF what it meanse to lead all inclusive struggle!!!
Girma Kassa aka muziky
Where in the poll did you see shabia or is it visible only to you? It is sad that Ethiomedia.com blinded by hate for Shabia published your lies without any consideration to journalism. lies wont take you both anywhere. Shut the hell up.