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31 thoughts on “Dislodging Fascistic Regimes with Nonviolent Civil Resistance”
god most crazy woyane constitution people right
peterson replies:
May 8th, 2012 at 8:08 PM
Hi, Mr. Elias,
What a confusion:- you were best known for your support for determined resistance against tigrai Mafia clique in power. NOw, you confuse us by talking about ‘peaceful non-violent’ resistance. To my knowledge there is no resistance or struggle if it is ‘non-violent’. One of the belligirants is naturally violent. If not the very idea of revolt and protest does not emereg. So, if Meles is violent and protesters are peaceful, it does not mean it is non-violent resistance.
Please, fear cannot be consistent and facing truth. Let us say what is true not what is confortable to us.
Observer replies:
May 8th, 2012 at 8:42 PM
peterson,
You have a good point. But look at the “Thumbnail view of the Process” The third column. It describes what nonviolent struggle is and is not.Nonviolent struggle is a fighting technique that you don’t face head on with an open warefare. He is a deadly killer machine.
” There is something strangely inconsistent about a nation and a press that would praise you when you say, “Be nonviolent toward Jim Clark,” but will curse and damn you when you say, “Be nonviolent toward little brown Vietnamese children.” There is something wrong with that press.”
~Martin Luther King, Jr. :)
peterson replies:
May 8th, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Meles is doing the dirty job of Anglo-Saxon in Humilating Islam and Muslims. Ethiopians have never tried to corrupt this great religion and Islam also respects Ethiopia. But minority governemnt of Tigrai, still destroying the fabric of Islamic faith and he also destroyed Ethiopian Orthodox faith. So, it is hight of his pircing the eye of ‘God’. Let us rise in Unioson, Orthodox Christians are fighiting thier battle in Northern Gonder, and Southern Ethiopia, let other blievers raise. The protestants, and non-blievers. This is time Meles has to resing for what he did to ISLAM and its followers, by invading Somalia, Giving information about
Global leaders of Islam, by lebling them as terrorists. He is depised by God and Meles is cursed , he has to be removed.
Another of Zenawi’s European friend has just gotten booted out of office. France’s Sarkozy was defeated by the socialist, Francois Hollande. Zenawi’s western backers, confidants and buddies, fom W. Bush to Tony Blair and now Sarkozy are crash and burning one by one with Barrack H. Obama on shaky ground going in election year. Because they ignored the plight of the people, their end and post presidency have been very bad.
meles is coming again to US?
In a desperate and despicable attempt of hanging to power, terrorist Meles is pushing Ethiopia to the edge of a cliff. He wants to stay in power at any cost even at the cost of endangering the unity of the country and destroying the security of its people. Terrorist Meles is attempting in futile to incite religious war amongst the Ethiopian people. Nothing is off limit for terrorist Meles as long as it can help him stay in power a day longer. His most recent rancid, spiteful, vile and venomous monologue in his lifeless rubberstamp parliament attests to this fact. But the Ethiopian people will not fall prey for the fool’s game terrorist Meles is playing. We, the people, stand together to get rid of this brutal, savage and evil tyrant. Terrorist Meles will go down alone and no one and no amount of effort can save him. It is an exercise in futile.
This latest effort by terrorist Meles to force Ethiopian Muslims convert into a different sect (denomination) they do not accept is a sure symptom of a fatal insanity. It is like forcing an Orthodox Christain follower to convert to protestant (evangelical or Pentecostal), catholic or baptism or vise versa. By doing so he is digging his own grave and for him this is not the beginning of the end but it is the end of the end. As we all know very well, the end began in 2005 when he was roundly and humiliatingly defeated in the hands of the Ethiopian people. We are witnessing history in the making. Terrorist Meles is now playing the last act. Everyone is invited to watch this historic act.
him replies:
May 7th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
The hate monger, ethnicist-fascist woyane/meles are trying to divide the muslim community on two fronts,
– their usual card is to divide the community on ethnic lines
– their latest and desperate attempt is to portray the muslim community as being infiltrated by Al-qauida ‘cells’. The shamless and liar woyane even claim they have expelled two arabs whom they accused as being agitators. No body can testify whether this is true or false or if the woyane are just trying to use these so called arabs as scapegoats.
Any arab man/woman in the eyes of the woyane thugs is a terrorist or agitator.
AMERICA NEEDS TO REVISIT ITS HISTORY!!
What Abraham Lincoln said carries powerful message. Unfortunately USA of today is far from that wish. Its (America’s) people need to reread their history. They are far from what Lincoln once said wanted them to be. Today America with its institution belong to the Corporate-America, not to the people. The Supreme Court of the Unites States has become the employee of the Corporate, rather than the people as stipulated in Lincoln’s speech or that of America’s Constitution.
I also believe that Abraham Lincoln’s speech should be part of every nations’ constitution.
I do support the non-violent struggle 100%, especially when it comes to our country Ethiopia. Having said so, I must point out that the use of a term “Fascist” is irrelevant, it is also irresponsible. Ehadeg’s government used similar terms in the past in reference to Ethiopian opposition parties. One such term was “Interahamwe”. Currently and sadly it (the government) is using the word ‘terrorist’ in reference to its opposition members.
For most part the individuals labelled as terrorist are genuine political oppositions to the status qua. They are not terrorist nor are they Interahamwe. By the same token, I would like to object the use of a term ‘Fascist’ in reference to the government of Ethiopia. No, there has never been such government in Ethiopia. The term Fascist is totally misused. By calling the government as such, one only underplays the extent in which the real Fascist had done to Ethiopians during WW II. Fascist is a political system whose followers are to strive to bring white supremacy over a non-white one. Please use your word responsibly for it can become action.
Good day
Ezana From Toronto
Observer replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:23 AM
Ezana from Toronto:
Are you telling us that Meles’ behavior and deeds don’t fit the definition of :
Fascistic Rule: Abusing the human rights of oppositions and perceived enemies.
Brother:
Call a spade a spade.
Ezana From Toronto replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:58 AM
Observer,
Absolutely not!! I totally disagree with you. However, if you persist using the term in reference to the government of Ethiopia, then don’t expect the government to refrain from calling you a terrorist or Interahamwe.
Personally, I don’t believe even Derg is a fascist state, as it was and is widely referred to by both Ethiopians and outsiders, despite the fact it murdered hundred of thousands of young Ethiopians in cold blood and day light.
I call a spade a spade, but I am not going to call Meles’ government a fascist. If I have to follow your definition of fascism, then, I have to call almost every one of Ethiopian rulers Fascist, that includes Halie Selassie.
Good day
Ezana From Toronto
Observer replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Ezana From Toronto:
How do you define a fashistic regime?
How many of the following 14 characterstics fit the Meles regime? I am not talking about the past.
Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
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Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism – Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights – Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause – The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security – Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed – Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts – Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption – Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections – Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
terstics fit the Meles regime?
Ezana From Toronto replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Dear Observer :
The nature, shape and form of fascism are more complex than what Dr. Lawrence has outlined in his paper. It is so funny your accusation of the government of Ethiopia is based on the Dr’s work. If I were you I will do a detail research to form my theory before I accuse one for being a fascistic regime. All you did was google the word ‘Fascist’ and picked one of the first few that came on Google.com. I can see how desperate you are to come up with anything that enables you to finger point at the current Ethiopian government. I suggest you should see, among many, at the work of Leon Trotsky’s early work on the nature and origin of fascism. Let me attempt to provide you with my own input in response to your claim:
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism – Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
RESPONSE: I am going to say this characteristic of Fascism is what the opposition has been accusing of Meles’ regime for lacking it. The regime was accused and continued to be accused in many occasion for not being patriotic enough. While fascism centralizes the use and type of flags, Addis Ababa’s regime was and is accused for not caring for Ethiopia flag. As a matter of fact the regime tolerates the use of all type of flags by different regions within the country. Hence one concludes that the fascistic usage of flag is non existence in Ethiopia. If the making of constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs and flags are the determining factors to accuse one for being a fascist, it would be easier to point one’s finger at Haile Selassie and Mengisutu’s regimes and of course at the opposition in Diaspora, which has conducted such practice in the name of One-Ethiopia.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights – Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
RESPONSE: Yes there is a vast human right abuse in Ethiopia and disdain for it by the government. I wonder if there has ever been a government in Ethiopian history that has not practiced it. However, this does not mean it is okay that we have such unfortunate experience in our country. We all have to work harder for better, both the government and the opposition. As far as summary executions are concerned, that is more of the previous regime’s characteristic and to some extent that of Haile Selassie regime. Remember what happened to the Mengistu Neway brothers and their collaborators? They were hanged in public in day light. Speaking of long incarcerations: Yes, it is a matter of reality in Ethiopia, unfortunately. However, I would say there is no fascistic characteristic in them. At least the accused see court, how partial the court is another matter that can be left for discussions or debate, by no means is it not a fascistic court. After all victims, in Mussolini’s Italy, Franco’s Spain and other places where Fascism reigned never saw court. They are hanged or left for public exclusions. Torture too is a matter that can be said more about the previous governments. However, there is such claim by those who were accused and detained in Ethiopia for collaborating or being part of either Al-Queda or/and Alshebab. We have similar accusation made against the United States government. Is USA Fascistic?
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause – The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
RESPONSE: This also, I would say, is more about the previous regime and the oppositions in Diaspora than it is about the current Ethiopian government. While the government can also be accused of similar practice, it is the opposition in Diaspora that has practiced such philosophy widely. Accusing the government for being Marxists, narrow nationalist, anti Ethiopia and hence call for unifying force to take actions to overthrow it. The exaggeration of any minor conflict as that of ethnical has been widely practiced by the Diaspora opposition. The recent phenomenon of the Amhara Ethnic in Northern Oromia was one example. Some of these posts are still online right here on ER are testimony to this.
4. Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
RESPONSE: This totally is not about Ethiopia’s current government. The government, I argue, has allocated most of its budget towards economic infrastructures. It has shown unprecedented economic development that has never been seen before in Ethiopia’s entire history. You may deny this, but the facts are for your eyes to see. You may also refer to the IMF and World Bank’s report on Ethiopia. As a matter of fact I remember when the government was accused by the oppositions just prior to the 1998 Ethio-Eritrean war for not investing on the country’s defense. Unlike the previous government, the current Ethiopian regime pays the country’s soldiers. It does not practice a national service or also known as forced military service. Hence one can say the government does not glamorize such practice.
5. Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
RESPONSE: This is a good one. Sexism is less existent in the current Ethiopia’s administration by comparison to the previous regimes, especially that of Haile Selassie. Ethiopia today has more female MP’s than USA. There are more high-level MPs in Ethiopia’s parliament that there are in USA or Canada, or most of the so called advanced countries. Please check the recent UN chart on this issue. One may also witness the inclusion of more women in Ethiopia’s current economic infrastructures, from travel to construction, to journalism to law to trade to etc. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are not suppressed. If there is such practice, it is more by the general public and religious institutions, not the government. I am reminded by recent phenomenon that took place in Ethiopia where some international gathering around issues on gay right or something like that was supposed to take place in Addis Ababa. While there was strong opposition by traditional religious institutions, the government has shown a tendency to go ahead in supporting the gathering. Hence we disqualify it (the government) from being fascistic based on an argument presented on homosexuality, gender, abortion and divorce.
6. Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
RESPONSE: This is very typical of the government, except for the time of election; it has controlled the media and has performed censorship. This too is the very characteristic of previous or former Ethiopian governments. As a matter of fact, the current regime has shown more flexibility in allowing the oppositions to share the media than that of the past regimes. At times the government has thrown those who publish in opposition to the government’s practice t jails or prisons. For most part these individuals are released, sooner or later. That is not the case in real fascistic regimes. The price for free expression is public execution in most of the former fascistic regimes. By far the current regime is even better than the previous Ethiopian regimes when it comes to sharing the public media. However, we all need to work for a better public media access. We cannot continue to compare the current government to that of the past and get some comfort. The formers corrupted regimes should not be our measuring poing.
7. Obsession with National Security – Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
RESPONSE: Yes, I came across many accusation of the current government’s obsession of National Security. I don’t have the particulars to argue for or against. So let the readers do their own research. However, I know the previous regimes had manipulated the country’s National Security to prolong their grip on power. While there are zillions of instances to demonstrate against the Mengistu regime, I will provide you an example of such practice by Haile Selassie’s. Again, I will use the Mengistu Neway brothers as an example. Their attempt to usurp power from Haile Selassie’ while he was abroad was halted by the intelliegence in the name of national security in cooperation with the Israeli Mossad in the name of national security. The killing of Tilanhu Gizaw, an Ethiopian student activist during the king and the killing of Asamenew Gebrewold, a renowned Ethiopian journalist was performed by Ethiopia’s intelligence in the name of national security.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions
RESPONSE: The current Ethiopian government is known for advocating the separation of state and religion. The head of the government, Meles Zenawi, has spoken about religious freedom while stressing that religious institution should stay out of politics, or refrain from expecting religious views to govern the country. While he is known to be of Coptic Christian, he continuously argued against the claim that Ethiopia was a Christian Island. Hence one may conclude that instead of using religion as tool to manipulate the general public opinion, he provided religious freedom while warning any attempt by these institutions from imposing their values on the political activity of the country. After all it is not going to be easy, for the opposition; to accuse the government of such practice after an interrupted attempt of implicated it of being a Marxist.
9. Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
RESPONSE: Well, here we luck something: The coming of the government to power by way of the corporate. If anything we may accuse the government for favoring the corporate, not the other way around. Whatever claim we would like to make, I think Ethiopia is too far from such reality, even during the king who was known to be imperialistic. Yes, to some extent we may point that there is a mutually beneficial business-government relationship and power elite as the government itself is not denying the fact that it is involved in business due to the surplus fund left behind during the era of rebellious life of the government’s main party, TPLF.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed – Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
RESPONSE: I don’t have the particulars here to argue for or against. I don’t know what, if any, the labor party is up to in Ethiopia. Those of you, who have enough knowledge of its existence and practice, please enlighten me. Thank you.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts – Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
RESPONSE: This is almost non-existence in today’s Ethiopia, unless you confuse intellectual for a politician. Ethiopia today has opened more higher learning institutions, hence is in a process of producing more higher education and academia. The art has flourished more than ever in the county. The emergence of new talents, be it musician, writer, singer, actors and other is a testimony to this. If there is any government to be accused of such practice, it is that of Mengistue’s totalitarian regime, where the art is suppressed unless for the use of the so-called revolution.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
RESPONSE: There is no such thing called national police in Ethiopia. Each region has its own police force and practices its power depends on the area. However, we may accuse the previous regime of Mengisute Haile Marliam for such practice. Yes, the police was seen to enforce the current government’s positions at times. One example being that occurred during the elections of 2005. I believe, by no means, it is/was at the height of the police force that once existed in fascist regimes.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption – Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
RESPONSE: I believe this part of the argument finger-points to the current government of Ethiopia in many ways. There are strong evidences to accuse the government of such practice. According to my decent conversation with Ehdeg members and sympathizers, those at higher governmental post are people who grew up together or they are from the same region back in Tigray and to some extent they are even blood relatives. In terms of economic adventure, especially at the early days, there were a wide spread favoritism and nepotism. The corruption also was and to some extent still is wide spread, even by the government’s own acknowledgments. It should be remembered number of the former government members, including those who are said to grew up in the same area with the current government officials, were prosecuted. I have no evidence to support if the government acted genuinely to correct the problem or, as claimed by the oppositions, to overcome internal power struggle. However, corruption is part of Ethiopia’s culture, not something the government created. This is not to accuse the general public as it is a product of a number of corrupted regimes that left foot-print of such practice. Is there any wonder we have a saying in Amharic that goes, “sishom yalbela, syshar yekochewal”? loosely translated as, “one who doesn’t fill his picket while promoted may regret when demoted.”
14. Fraudulent Elections – Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
RESPONSE: This too is very much about the current government. I don’t have the particulars to go in detail, but I know one thing. The government’s claim of securing about 95 % of the vote during the last election is unacceptable in a country like Ethiopia, populated by mosaic of nations and nationality, with diverse religions and political views. There is no possibility for any political party to acquire such number from the electorate.
In conclusion I would say anyone can take a bit from here and there to form his/her own theory as to what a political system is. By no means is Meles’ regime a fascistic one. However, one may accuse it for being totalitarian to some extent. To take something out of a context and accuse the government for being a fascist state is very irresponsible. If that is the case, then we have to agree with the government’s accusation of the opposition as Interahamwe.
Who are Interahamwe? These are group of people mainly of the Hutu ethnic group in Rwanda. They once united under the banner of Hutu nationalism to genocide the minority Tutsis. They murdered hundreds of thousands of Tutsis in cold blood. Before they commit their crime, they first accuse the Tutsi for being outsiders, minorities who had monopoly over of the country where they (the Hutus) should be the leaders because of their majority nature in number. Ethiopian oppositions at the early age and to some extent today, were and are mainly composed of the Amhara Ethnic group. These individuals dwelling in these oppositions group pointed out number of times that Meles was not even Ethiopian. They accused him (Meles) for standing for the interest of either Eritrea or Tigray region. They accuse/d it for looting the country and transformed (and is transforming) the loot into Tigray. It is only recently the main oppositions changed their rhetoric from Tigray to TPLF or Woyane. At that point of our political history, the government had more reasons to call the oppositions Interahamwe than the oppositions have to call the government a fascist one today.
Ezana From Toronto A.K.A Hodam Amhara
Jegnaw replies:
May 10th, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Ezana
Now you are compering and accusing Ethiopian to Hutus, rather than your TPLF master.there very existence is build on Eliminating Amhara from the face of the earth. but thank you for exposing your self as one of the cadre’s of wayanne. even though we know all along.you are one sick individual.
like i said there is no truth in everything you said. and keep singing your deceit we will keep deflating it..
Eana From Toronto replies:
May 10th, 2012 at 4:05 AM
Jegnaw,
You either need to go get some education or make sure to get your medication on time or both. I know you suffer from some form of schizophrenia. I have already tried to remind you that when you posted article under Anonymous. Do you also suffer from OCD? I am sure you don’t know what that one means. It means Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I can see how much you are obsessed with me. Read my article again, You may read but understand. I suggest that you find someone to read and translate it for you into Amharic.
Good day, Doma-Ras
Ezana From Toronto A.K.A Hodam Amhara
Jegnaw replies:
May 10th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
Ezana
you will be spurious how much i know about you Mr Ezana
you think we Ethiopians are that dumb we cant see thru you woyane lies to justify the an just. trying to sanitize TPLF in to acceptable institution by Ethiopian. but Ezana we have 21 years of experience, what woyane is all about. like i said you can put all kind of make-up on a pig, but still a pig. you can try to making saint out of Meless and co they are still a looters of a nation. and are using a system of apartheid like in south Africa that are worse than fascist Italy.go ask in Walkit,go ask in Gambella,go ask in Afar,go ask the Amahara that they evicted,the Anukas they are murdering. they will tell you what we have been saying all along. and we know Ezana, Way you are heir on this website not because you care about 90 million people of Ethiopia.you are hire to sereve your masters,by bringing confusion. Ezana the clown, your doing a good job making Hitler a saint.
you can call me all you want i know evil when i see one..Ezana
Anonymous replies:
May 10th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Ezana
Oh yeah i forgot are you taking care of your ADD? nothing more to say..hahahahahah..
good day hodam..
Jegnaw replies:
May 10th, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Ezana
Keep twisting the truth. you are not fooling any one except your self.
you need fearless moral inventory of your self.you have alcoholic thirties very grandiose personality. that is mental disease get help man,get counselling you need it bad.
I, am real concern about you..
Jegnaw replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 6:03 AM
Ezanna
Hello brothers sisters heir is what Ezana said in the past and make your Owen judgement. to me whatever Ezana says it dos not hold water.
This are in his Owen word that i collected from different post.
“i really don’t agree with your analysis. tplf people being out there just to loot and sell Ethiopia. i believe that they have there own formula that they really believe.”
Now let as see what Ambassador Donald Yamamoto said about TPLF .
“Upon taking power in 1991, the ruling Tigrayan People’s Liberation Front(TPLF) liquidated non-military assets held by the movement to fund a series of companies whose profits will be used as venture capital”…in other word they (TPLF) are a looters of a nation noting more.Ethiopia is there own cash cow..
But Mr.Ezana would have as believe it our imagination WOYANNE IS good for Ethiopia..
Heir is another saying from Mr.Ezana
Ezana-“i believe that TPLF/Ehadig has done better than the past when it comes to economic progress.”
what are you taking about may be you are doing well Economically or maybe you are the Elite from that group so it is possible for those woyanne and there hodam supporters to be well of Economically.bout for the rest of Ethiopia, there is nothing but misery and hard ship never seen before in all Ethiopia’s history…
Thank you
Jegnaw
Ezana From Toronto replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Jegnaw,
Why do I feel like you are one of those illiterate Derg’s militia men who made it out of the country? Yes, I said those things and I stand by them. I am not a fanatic. I form my own thoguhts rather than follow party discipline and guide line to say what I want to say. I criticize everyone when everyone is wrong, that includes the Government of Ethiopia.
Unfortunately and deliberately you only love to quote one side of my argument. Why didn’t you quote me criticizing the government? Because you are an evil man who has a hidden agenda, party agenda that is. That is the problem with being a member of this or that party. You lie when you know the truth is something else, because it is what is expected of you. You lose your freedom when you belong to one of those things called parties, in spite of the fact that they all claim to free others. How could you fight for others when you are not free yourself?
Please, don’t take readers for idiots. You attempted to mislead them by posting partial of what I wrote. Unlike you most do their own research. I bet they google me as they do you. Here is a link for an article I posted online back sometimes ago criticizing the government of Ethiopia on human right issue. Jegnaw, learn something, hope you do, doma-ras:
http://danielberhane.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/ethiopia-rejects-recycled-human-right-watch-report/
Ezana From Toronto A.K.A Hodam Amhara
Anonymous replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Ezana
keep singing the song of deceit.you are nothing but a poppet of Woyanne.
you can put all kind of makeup on a pig, but still a pig.so Ezana you can say all you want, your still what you are a lire.nothing you say holds truth period.
and let me shier a little wisdom with you.. out of the abundant of the heart the mouth speak.as you have called me “illiterate” this alliterate is taking you to school..like they said you can take the horse to the water but you cant make him drink the water.that horse must choose to drink the water, for him self.i will repeat it again a man needs 3 quality
1,Honesty
2,willingness
3,openmindeness you got that Ezana.. DOMA_RAS.
and have a beautiful day.
Anonymous replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 4:47 PM
Ezana from Toronto,
Whatever dictionary you’re using, I suggest you need to throw it away! According to Webster Dictionary, tyrant Meles and his regime is a classic example of Fascism. It is one thing to admit that you blindly support a dictator who is responsible for incarcerations, evicting, torturing,selling the country’s land, Ethiopian small children for profit, selling young Ethiopian women to Arabs and for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Ethiopians. You’re indeed in denial and simply trying to convince the oppressed Ethiopians tyrant Meles is not a fascist. Everything Meles and TPLF have been doing is beyond fascism…
FASCISM: Oppression, Iron hand, Misery, Hardship, Abuse, Brutality, Domination, Persecution, Tyranny, etc. Meles not only a fascist, he is also a heartless demonic monster that does the deeds of Satan! Not only his personality, but look at Meles’ teeth, he looks like a man eating fish, that is ready to chew on another human being.
Ezana From Toronto replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 7:41 PM
To Anonymous:
Rest assured that I will keep singing my song, never yours!! You are nothing but a fanatic die hard one sided follower who is a prisoner of one’s blind belief. All i have been doing is to free you from demons as you sound and look to suffer from the heights form of schizophrenia. Everyone is out there to get you, what a paranoid soul!!a
Good day
Ezana From Toronto A.K.A Hodam Amhara
Shetaye replies:
May 9th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Response to Ezana From Toronto
I think we all need to carefully examine the nature and the main characteristics of Fascism and draw a conclusion based on those.
Having said that, there are a lot of things that relate the current regime to make it be fascistic.
Unlike the fascists system the world had seen before the government of Ethiopia which is mainly formed by TPLF party coated by EPRDF. We all know that the core of the government is run by individuals who have been advocating for” Tigrean Nationalism” that is different from all other ethnic groups.
This “Tigrean Nationalism” has a bigger ingredient right from its inception and that is Anti-Amhara movement. The anti-Amhara rhetoric started way before the TPLF, but TPLF materialized it and used it as a weapon of propaganda, fund raising, recruitment, and support from foreign powers specially Sudan, and all the other undemocratic and dictatorial Arab countries who always dreamed of changing Ethiopian into an Islamic State. TPLF used Anti-Amhara for gaining control and encouraged the killings, evictions, discrimination,deprivation of jobs, land and housing specifically targeting the Amharas.
They have always been resentful of the support of Ethiopians for Israel and Israel knows that too. But the Arab countries are even using that weapon against our sisters who are escaping Ethiopia. They get raped, tortured and insulted by calling them “spies of Israel”.
Anyway the rise of the TPLF is very much tented with racism against the Amharas. Racism is one of the characteristics of fascism.
The poor Amharas who had been fighting to protect the freedom of their country are now victims of the TPLF and the people of the Arab countries.
We can go on and on but Ezana, as you said i agree i don’t think i can call Derg fascist. Derg was like other non democratic communist states like Cuba or the Soviet Union. They were not fascists.But this government has a lot in common with other fascist governments.
Adient party ,Burtukan’s congregation,is a joke in front of EPDRF massive power apparatus.I personally ask the the members to dissolved its wasteful idea find for better.
[Td],
Stop your smear about andante Party! Andante party is the party of the people; it is a democratically elected and representative party which draws its support from a bed rock constituency. Unlike other organizations that form their front and call for Ethiopians to join them, Andante is truly democratically elected body. In addition, if you have any question you may address it through appropriate forum so that you will receive answer.You don’t have to fear for raisng question about andenet for its leaders are elected representrative of its followers.As representative party of the people Andante leaders have in the past paid and continue to pay great sacrifice. In spite of the hardship and constant imprisonment its leaders are subjected and the circumstances they operate, UDJ leaders have proved to be highly dedicated,discplined,and committed to their cause.Andenet is a nonviolent political party which uses legitimacy to oppose the regime’s policy therefore for you to imply andante must resort to violence is a miss placed expectation. Whether you agree with UDJ’s platform or not are one thing, but to suggest andante disband unless it advocates violence amounts to a cast of aspersion. No one is interested to raise questions about some leaders? However the behaviors of some lends to it. The reason some are raisng questions about the commitment of those who are for armed struggle is because they are pursuing wrong strategy.
I have never said they should chose arm struggle.
Why don’t you guys stop arguing over Fascism and start talking how we can make the Ethiopian national soccer team stronger. We have not won even half a cup since when, I don’t even know. It is my cup of tea to talk about it but as far as politics i keep telling you guys to write letters to Meles asking him to resign. And if one day he says no body wrote him any letter and that is why he is still in power for long we should blame ourselves.
I am going to send one and I will post it here if brother Elias Kifle permits. The reason I am doing it is because may be you don’t know how to write to a prime minister. Doesn’t prime mean the main minister above all the other ministers? So why don’t we call him YeBelay Minister?
And the other thing I am worried about is that we all want him to go, what happens if he comes to United States and start living among us? Are we going to ask him to go somewhere else? I will lead that fight I think it would be easier.
Dear Elias, I like what you are doing. And again What happens to all of us if one day you decide to shut down Ethiopian Review? I think you have to find us a back up plan. I don’t think anyone would like if you shut it down, even Meles, because this is where he finds out how we are thinking.
you see guys it is only my eyes that are fezaza my brain is sharp.
Jegnaw replies:
May 10th, 2012 at 1:06 AM
your so sharp,you will be cutting your brain in half. and don’t for get bright too,how bright? you tell us.
The writers of all the above pieces and the whole thread are honorable people.I do not know any one of them. I wonder what will happen if you put them in a conference table to dialog with an ‘IMPARTIAL” CHAIRMAN OR CHAIRWOMAN? WHERE DO YOU GET AN IMPARTIAL CHAIR IN A POLARIZED ETHIOPIAN POLITICS. Everybody can imagine what would happen in that conference table after the meeting. I understand the logical argument of EZANA and disagree with him on the issue of cronysim or the emergence of a unique type of NOMENCLATURA or CLEPTOCRACY. However, there are not any nation states without powerful group of elites from antiquity to the age of globalization. That is why rational thinking is bottlenecked by politics. I admire him on the architecture of his rational, debate and style;- I am afraid somebody may call me a WOYANE. However, I have innoculated myself in this very forum. I READ EVERY BLOGGER IN CHAT ROOMS AND MANY ETHIOPIAN WEBSITES. I am worried that we are losing critical thinkers and our political capital as a nation. I am past 50 and I am worried that the spill-over effect of hate and intolerance would affect my children. This is why I call every Ethiopian to forum and table of and NATIONAL RECONCILLIATION. Look at the history of DKlerk and Mandela, Vietnam and America, the Hutu and the Tutsi in Ruwanda. Let us work for forgiveness without forgetting our history. We can change the whole dynamics if we promote reconcilliation. It can be done! 21st century is the century of tolerance, reconcilliation and the absence of war. 21st century is the century of altruism. Some scientists are now leaning to such prediction because of the inhumanity of corporate greed and the poisoning of the environment altruistic genes are selected for common survival even in the animal and plant kingdoms. Social Darwinism can modify itself for collective survival. I am not naive, I full well know the pitfalls of diehard camps from the government and the opposition side. RECONCILLIATION NOW, FORGIVENESS NOW! LONG LIVE ETHIOPIA! To possible attackers: Read carefully before you attack me. To the readers: Defend when the idea meets the issue of tolerance and good will. You cannot be free if you do not have your own rational of good will for the survival of Ethiopia and all of humanity! Revenge begets revenge!. I thank ELIAS for raising the issue of reconcilliation, conflict resolution religious agents of reconcilliation and non-violence. I want to see leadership from our faith leaders on these issues. BEST WISHES FOR ALL ETHIOPIANS AT HOME AND IN THE DIASPORA!