As part of its Greater Tigray agenda, the Woyanne apartheid junta has been systematically attempting to weaken Ethiopian nationalism by turning one ethnic group against another. The Woyanne propaganda machine has commissioned papers and books, for example, audaciously bringing into question the Oromo people’s contribution to building Ethiopia as a nation. Unfortunately, the Woyanne propaganda is having an impact on the new generation of Ethiopians who know little about Ethiopian history. To help counter such attacks on Ethiopiawinet, poet and distinguished Ethiopian scholar Dr Fikre Tolossa has authored an article in 1992 titled: Nobles of Oromo descent who ruled Ethiopia. It’s an insightful and highly informative article. Click here to read it.
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Dear Yosef #40,
The Oromos have never been out of my hand, so I don’t have to go to war to get them back. As they have never been out of my hand, I have never been out of their hands either.
abeba garbi #47,
It is common everywhere in this world to give derogatory names to some groups of people; for example, in America Jews are called “Kike” or “Yid.” Filipinos are called “Asian nigger.” The Irish are called “Bog.” The Japanese are called “Jap.” In the South, African Americans are called “Blue gum.” Therefore, if some tribes in Ethiopia are given pejorative names such as “ሻንቅላ ባርያ ጋላ ውላጅ,” it is not out of the norm of a society.
You must learn the true history of your roots from worldly renowned Amhara historians rather than from OLF fiction writers. If you stick with the OLF people, you will bring something bad, not something beneficial to the society at all. There is a good Amharic saying: “ከአሕያ ጋራ አብራ ያዋለች ጊደር ፈስ ተምራ መጣች.” Therefore, don’t associate yourself with 0LF.
#2Assta B. Gettu
I really didn’t see how you relate two completely unrelated issues just to show how thick-headed you are. Not more than this.
By the way can you name me the name of a prophet that is foretold the verse you mentioned! Don’t tell me he is Jesus(peace be up on him) because you do not believe Jesus is prophet…do not also tell me he is John the Baptist, because he is not the one mentioned there.
Tell me the name please.
Second…you said Muhammad (peace be up on him) palagirised ‘old testament’ and ‘new testament’! But some other time you claim that Muhammad (peace be up on) could not write and read. So how came you think one can do that without those abilities?
I know that you nothing about Bible it self. Just read ( not mere reading but with meaningful thoughts)it for yourself then put it on balance…see how it can even relate to any other religions book.
I wish I could avoid writing this comment but you forced me unneccessarily.
Assta B. Gettu
people like you spread poison none but for your lack of civility and it is embarrassing to respond to such nonsense,aimless, and baseless thinking.I have good friends from tegre, Amhara, Gurage, Eritrea, and other ethnic groups as human and I can be like you in million years and i refused to level down myself with you, as to the reality mark my word you will see it in your life time.
Assta B. Gettu #50,
you have said ” I know what is going on right now in Oromia between the Amharas and Oromos “, it is true that some so called ” Neftegnas ” offsprings are instead of living peacefull with Oromos among whom they have born, but collaborating with TPLF and againsting the indiginous Oromos in their home land. Such misguided persons are the supporters of century old Neftegna Systems in Oromia like you yourself. The Oromos are doing and will do what ever necessary to defend themselves on their own land Oromia. Those who come to live and work in Oromia must respect the Oromo culture, customs and norms of living.
Hey Assta,
You are making me laugh so hard because I sense fear in your comment. You are about to mekzen on your pants. Apparently you have so much bad conclusion about me and I don’t believe it because your fear is leading you to extreme and I suggest step back and see the whole picture before you inflame others. I used to like very small part of your comments before. From your extreme views about other ethnic groups especially towards Oromos, from now on I decide not to take you seriously and you are probably so frustrated about what is going on in Ethiopia, sitting behind your computer is making you delusional. Come back and take a little deep breathing. I don’t see you any different than OLF and TPLF. For the first time as an Amara, you are experiencing your extremism, heck every ethnic group should have one shouldn’t we all have extremism like the Liberation Fronts and no one sensible will be on Ethioipa’s land and let Ethiopia burn into flames (sarcasm)
you said,
I know my comment has offended you to a great extent that you are advertising to the world that I am not an Ethiopian, but the problem is you do not know how to advertise your point. This is how to do it” your comment is more like fowl mouth like typical of some Amaras. Notice I said some Amaras not all. I don’t generalize like you do to Oromos, all Amaras are bad. You are also very confused that one minute you generalize on Oromos and all of the sudden you say, you didn’t say Oromos are this and that. Make up your mind. If you are confused then maybe you are using the wrong choice to explain in regards to Amara and Oromos. I sense however, your bias is coming out unintentionally, be careful you maybe moving to extremism that is what I am trying to say. Extremism and racism is I believe when one feels superior over other groups not based on merit but based on blood, race, religion, etc. When I say merit, certain group of people may have the gene, talent, gift that maybe enlightened to almost higher consciousness that lead people towards progress, peace, democracy, development etc, where they can lead society towards harmonious and peace instead of racism, hate, resentment, war, division and so on, more like they are doing god’s work. That is the type of people I wish for Ethiopia. It could happen that these people could be from Amara, Oromo, tigray, or mix of group of people etc… for me that is fine by me. In reality though it didn’t work and it is not working one way or the other, when one group of peole lead there is a tendency for bias in any society. The goal is how to transcend that bring entire society to harmony.
At the end, I know you are provoking people for your own agenda, as I said maybe Weyane/Shaebia/Arab therefore, you obviously want attention and will not give you one from now on. I also don’t have to prove to you who I am as my comments in the past clearly shows who I am.
Long live ancient Ethiopia!
To Assta B. Gettu,
You are just a big frigging joke. I cant’t beleieve what you wrote here. More or so, your subsequent attemptted denials on your later posts when you recieve backlash “from the group you purport to represent – genuine Ethiopians” – using OLF as a scapegoat. Someone has mentioned it in here. You are a person planted in ER to go undercover as “ultra chuvanist Orthodox christian Amhara”, whereas you are never any of these. I bet, as I have now come to realize, this is your paid job. But if you are contrary to my assertion, you are big time giving a service to Meles and other radicals (like OLF) to their destructive agenda to create an un-united Ethiopia. You are playing the role what Meles day in / out is claiming his predecessors mental blueprint looks like, for him a justification towards the treachourous path he is taking the country into. Any sane human being gives a big tick of approval to Meles’s way, rather than to your #%$&# purported manifesto and elitist agenda.
Having said that, be reminded that Ethiopians are much much wiser than what you, and your cronny “who you admire secretly” Meles, want them to be. Dr. Tolossa’s article is an instance of this, he is so courteus in his writing to show what the real Ethiopia has been, i.e. diverse and colourful that gave every ethinic group a sense of a stake holder in their past, and hence in their future. He wrote an archival piece of work that is worthy of looking into, also constructive.
My 5 cent to you. It is a simple rule. Don’t dictate or suffocate any country, culture, ethnic group, religion, or for that matter any social setting to what you want them or they should be; rather embrace and work within them if you want to see the outcome you want. Otherwise, if you choke them with your nonsenses you are awakening the giant within them (even the any mamals have the fight-or-flight tendency to stress test) that may destroy you and any goodwill you may have. It is the 21st century, you are soo portraying a 19th century mentality, typical Feudal.
wake up
Dr. Fikre want boost our Morale/probably his morale, and claim the Solomonic dynasty , convince us that we the Oromos are the traditional Imperial House of Ethiopia …so we are citizenery to live the life we want with unshakable confidence …. and sing and keep on singing “Ethiopia Hagree Memekiye Kibree…..hmmmmmmmmm… .” That’s isnot relevent now but might be in the 1990’s when blood was the sole toolkit for polics….Dr. Fikre was too late to suggest a correction on Ethiopian History even then.
Now, even though Dr. Fire’s article has truth to tell, for now the issue is a bit past the political history of genealogy. It sounds like it will not be the toolkit anymore. The current one rather says the Oromo’s and other Ethiopian subjects are coward herds to service their master as needed and required…. So we should question ourselves?
Note 1 to “Assta B. Gettu and your likes…”: You better had drown yourself to the Atlantic Ocean and die silent suffocated. You are useless and you donot have anything to contribute as Ethiopian to Ethiopia….you organs are already dead…!
Note 2 to Dr.Fikre…Its not the blood that is a problem but the spirit…There are so many Amhara and Tigres who were scarified for the just cause of the oppressed…
Note 3 to Meles: You better think twice and Make Ethiopia where your kids can live freely and not being slaughtered like Gaddafi’s kids or live ashamed like Mubark’s kids or live in exile for generation like Mengistu’s and HaileSelassie’s kids.
One Love!
Dear Assta,
Thanks for understanding my point of view discussed on comment #27, like I said, even though I belong to the Amhara tribe, my Tigrean and Oromo as well as other ethnic groups are without any doubt my brothers and sisters and fellow Ethiopians, since we agreed on that, I do have a big doubt to the extent of being convinced that the OLF is just another evil in veil and no doubt that they have a secret (if they call it secret) agenda to destroy EOTC and dismantle Ethiopia’s unity. I rather have those blood sucking woyannes than having OLF in power. Then, what we would have is not going to be the gun totting Aba Paulos but a sheikh in priest garment. And its a fact that Ethiopia can never be Ethiopia as we used to know her if she falls under the hands of the extremist muslims because if that happens, all the good muslims we tend to call as examples of peaces and harmony between Christianity and Islam will for sure turn their backs on us so we rather have them as friends while we are in power than them in power. That’s the reality of the world of Islam, never to take friends from Christians and Jews when they control government, we don’t say that but the Quran says that quite clearly. Whatever it is, having extremist thoughts against Islam is something I oppose since its against our faith and something avoid in our generation but I equally if not ardently oppose the expansion and controlling status of Islam in Ethiopia. What perplexes me most is as why the woyanne government which is mainly and importantly composed of Tigrean descent fails to understand this since Tigreans are no strangers to what Muslims are capable of plus their ancestors being one one of the biggest defenders of the Tewahido faith. I wonder how the bones of their ancestors is crushing in sorrows under the ground when their descendants work hard to disintegrate and shame the very country they died for and the very faith they shaded their blood for. I wonder WHY. May the Most Blessed the Holy Trinity Bless our beloved country Ethiopia.
Love#56, listen woyanne:
It is obvious that you are ready to insult, fire and put all the blames on Amharas every opportunity you get at any given moment. Think about it, so far in the history of Ethiopia not one leader have caused more harm to Ethiopia and Ethiopians than Meles and members of TPLF. And yet, Ethiopians have been very careful not to generalize and insult the entire Tigrea race, even though, Meles and his TPLF cronies have committed atrocities on Ethiopian people and have looted and sold Ethiopian precious land to foreign billionaires. On the other, here you are, without good valid reason, you start belittling and insulting the entire Amharah race because of one misguided, not deep thinker and unstable man has written on Ethiopian Review. You are not any different than Asta Getu.
It is funny to see that we Ethiopians still busy talking about silly things such as about who speak who’s language rather talking about things that change our life and the create a better future to our children. We are the last in very thing but what we argue about is
the hate and who is better than who. Hate doesn’t change our life. We need to wake up from this silliness and think how we can live together and change our life. God gave us a beautiful country with rivers flowing
on four corners of the country. What a waste? The good people of Ethiopia need to take in charge and take back the country and stop our country from going over the cliff.
Ethiopia has been a melting pot for millenia. There is no pure amahara or Tigre King. Most emperors and kings of Ethiopia marry and intermarry with all tribes. The common people do also the same thing. I think it is the strenght of the Ethiopian Nation that we do not prefer this or that tribe but relate to one another as long as we are ethiopians.
The amhara noblity has riled Ethiopia for about 600 years. There were some interruptions from Tigray. As to Aksumites, we are not sure which tribe dominated the political life. Probably Tigreans were the domonant figures during the Aksumite Era. No wonder there could have been also Amharas ruling or participating in all decision making process in Aksum at the height of it’s zenith. Aksum is not Tigray in political sense. Aksum is the capital city of Ethiopia. tigray is not a tribe. It is a geographical denomination, where important rulers and learned have come out. Kaleb, St. Yared, Ezana to name a few.
The Oromos have integrated into politics and culuture of Ethiopia. They are migrants and pastoralists. The Oromos have no defined territory. We could safely the Arisi area is Oromo. The present territory of the Oromos is really artificial
The future of Ethiopia is unity. we should encourage equality to forge unity. The Oromos are ethiopians so are the rest of us. We have no influence of what happened in the past. But we can shape our future under the banner of Ethiopianism on the foundation of aksum and not Lali bella or Gondar. We are all aksumites.
Tola,
I just wanted to say that Mubarak’s politically over active kids are currently in a cage in Egyptian jail with their ex-long ruling dictator father Mubarak.
Ex-Iraqi dictator, Sadam Hussein’s politically over active sons were chased and publicly executed by firing squad in Iraq after the start of the Iraqi war and fall of Saddam’s regime. The father, Saddam Hussein, was publicly hanged under the direct view of television cameras with the Iraqi public rejoicing and dancing the hanging ceremony.
But of course you are forewarning tyrant Meles to watch his dictatorial criminal ruler ship and quickly change course before the sun sets and dark descends on earth and on his palace as well as well as also not to face that ultimate and similar fate like the above tyrants in question. In reality most dictators have ONLY a ONE WAY TICKET. They have neither a reverse gear in their car nor a return ticket from their flights, metaphorically speaking.
The return tickets and the reverse gears are in the hands of a united opposition who may need to make the final decision about the fate of a dictator’s journey’s end point whether it resembles that of Saddam Hussein and his sons or that of Mubarak and his sons. :)
ከሰላምታ ጋር
ዲ ነኝ
#20.neofascism,
Why do you waste your time beating about the bush since all the bushes in which you use to live are razed to the ground.
But #53, or Gragn Ahmed, masquerading as But.
To remove the inferiorities some Oromos, such as the OLF, have and to lift up their broken spirits and fill them with the Amhara spirits, Dr. Fikre has forced himself to find some similarities between the Oromos and the Amharas through genealogies. In the same way, the prophet Muhammad worked hard to validate his fictitious Quran as a holy book by stealing some verses from the Old Testament and some verses from the New Testament; therefore, Muhammad’s fake Quran is the same with Dr. Fikre’s deluded genealogies. If Dr. Fikre wants to help those sulky and broken-spirit Oromos (OLF), he must teach them the wisdom of that great king, His Majesty, Emperor Haile Selassie, who used to say to his people whom he loved deeply: “ራስን ከሥራ መውለድ እንጂ
ከትልቅ ሰው ተወልጄ አለሁ ማለት አይረባም.”
If you still fail to see the nexus between Dr. Fikre’s genealogies and Muhammad’s attempt to bring up his Quran to the level of the Holy Bible, then you have a problem. You need some help from some Amhara experts who can teach you the values of comparison and contrast.
Indeed, Moses was talking about Jesus Christ when he said: “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him” (Deuteronomy 18:15). It cannot be Muhammad because Moses was talking to the twelve tribes – the Israelites – and the twelve tribes are not Muhammad’s brothers and sisters: they are Moses’ brothers and sisters, and the one that comes out of these brothers and sisters is Jesus Christ, the great prophet, the Son of the Living God. On Deuteronomy 18:18, Moses says again: God says to Moses: “I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth.” The key words here are “from among their brothers,” which means among the twelve tribes, not among the Edomites (Esau). Muhammad belongs to the Edomites, not to the twelve tribes. Jesus genealogy is from the 12 tribes (Matthew 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-38).
The Apostle Peter confirms to the people of Israel (the twelve tribes) in Jerusalem: “For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you’” (Acts 3:22). The word “people” here refers to the twelve tribes of the Israelites; it has nothing to do with Muhammad at all. John testifies to the people of Israel: “I baptize with water, but among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie” (John 1:26-27). John did not mention Jesus by name as Moses in Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 did not mention Jesus’ name; however, when John saw Jesus coming to him on the next day, John said: “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me’” (John 1:29-30). Was John the Baptist talking about Muhammad here? Not at all! He is talking about Jesus Christ. Jesus is the one who takes away the sin of the world, not Muhammad.
All Christians believe Jesus is a great prophet: “Sir,” the women said to Jesus Christ, “I can see you are a prophet” (John 4:19). Two people on their way to Emmaus in Judea were talking about Jesus Christ who was crucified and was risen up on the third day. Jesus joined them, but they didn’t know it was Jesus. They told Jesus: “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people” (John 24:19).
Amazed by the miracle Jesus performed, especially after he brought to life a widow’s only son,, the people who testified about one of his wonders were speechless and finally said: “A great prophet has appeared among us…” (Luke 7:16). When Jesus continued working miracles after miracles, people began to say: “Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world” (John 6:14).
As a great Prophet, as a perfect God, and as the only Son of God, Jesus knew Muhammad would come. Jesus said: “I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if
another comes in his own name, you will receive him” (John 5:43). Jesus is right, when the false prophet Muhammad appeared, declaring himself as a prophet, millions of people accepted his satanic message.
No true prophet had ever been mesmerized or bewitched by magic, or sorcery, but Muhammad had been: “Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle (Muhammad) and he was bewitched so that he began to imagine doing things which in fact, he had not done” (Bukhari: V7B71N661).
Satan had indeed misled Muhammad: “Those two phrases which Satan had cast on Muhammad’s tongue were in the mouth of every polytheist. The Messenger (Muhammad) said, ‘I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken’” (Tabari VI: 110).
A true prophet never fabricates words not sent to him from God; a true prophet never admires the perfectness of magic. He must know magic is false; however, Bukhari says: “Allah’s Apostle (Muhammad) said, ‘some eloquent speech is as effective as magic” (Bukhari: V6B60N662). Therefore, all Muhammad’s words, by his own admission, are fabrications, not words from God the Almighty.
For misleading billions of people and leading them to their final destruction, Muhammad the prophet must be put in trial and be sentenced to death in absentia even though he is already dead.
Hatful Woyanne #60,
Who are you, a cursed, uncircumcised, illiterate, and backward troglodyte to criticize love #56, who has never said he is Woyanne? Who gave you the authority to judge a person, whether he is a deep thinker or as green as grass like you? Go back to school and learn how to use the word “different” in a proper way.
Just like most black Americans the Oromo people tend to do more talking than real action. I say they should open their owen art school and paint green.
My dear Zera Yacob #59,
You are absolutely right: we all Ethiopians are brothers and sisters, but there is no doubt in my mind that the first thing the OLF People will do if they have the power is to destroy the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church. They will galvanize the Ethiopian Muslims and let them burn down all the Ethiopian Orthodox Churches, starting from Axum to Lalibela to Gondar to Gojam to Wollo to Shewa and to the rest of the Ethiopian provinces. Then they will start beheading the prominent and highly educated Amhara scholars. They immediately change the name Addis Ababa to their Finfinne; they will demote the Amharic language and declare Orominga as the Official language of Ethiopia. They will replace Christianity with Islam or paganism that allows an Oromo person to distinguish himself and become a first class person by slaughtering a human being or something else. They will tear down the old Ethiopian flag and put their own Bandera. They will rewrite the Ethiopian history glorifying their paganism and plunders. They will completely burn down the Chronicles of the Ethiopian Kings and Queens and designate the past Ethiopian kings and queens as the descendants of the Oromo people. What is more? They will hunt those Amharas living abroad, bring them back to Ethiopia, send them to jail, and let them die there. The Woyanne government cares only for its survival. Meles wants to have a weak and powerless Ethiopian Orthodox Church than a vibrant one, and because of negligence toward the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church, the Tigrean and the Amhara Christians hate him deeply, but they don’t want to express their animosities against him because they fear that he may empower the Ethiopian Muslims to bring more harm to the Orthodox Church.
My dear Zera Yacob, we are stuck! We have to pray hard day and night to God to get us out of the mess Mengistu Haile Mariam and Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi) have created.
I, too, prefer to live under Meles ruthless leadership to the pugnacious OLF leadership.
Tola #58,
As an active member of the Jihadist OLF, tell me what do you, Tola, Galla, have contributed to the Oromo people in your 30 years of service to the OLF except interrupting the Oromos’ children from their schools and taking them to the jungle to be perished there in hunger and thirst? You have deprived the Oromo mothers and fathers of their beloved sons and daughters by kidnapping them and taking them to the bushes to be the food of the wild animals. Not satisfied with your endless deceptions against the Oromo young boys and girls, you are now trying to persuade the Amhara boys and girls to join you in your final chicaneries. Your hidden retaliation against the Amhara people has become clearer than ever before. Your days are over before you achieve your evil desire to dominate the Amhara people and to kill their language, culture, religion, and history. Go back to your pagan ritual and sacrifice one of your children to your አድባር ቆሌ or to the spirit of አባ ጅፋር.
Please mr.Getu give us a break. You see! I am in awatchfull and close proximity with articles and opinions posted in the ethiopian web sites.especially live the oromos alone if in case’ endemeqabir yetekefetewin afihin zegteh’ to work with oromos to auster weyane/weyuma. Of course you may or may not be from amhara ethinic group. If in case you are from amhara you are propagating feudalist view which is shared among few adharian like your cousin ‘milion aleqa’ Ayalsew Desse , ‘Dr.’ Ermias and the likes.Paradoxically i do have agreat honour and appriciation to Dr. Getachew, Dr. Birhanu and ato Andargachew and the rest who devoted them selves to adress the root cause of immense problem of the country and to save fragile politics in the country. We all aware about what ‘agalla geday dirijit sponsured and orchestrated by weyane’ by individuals of your people. Really i do have alot to talk. please leave us alone brother. I am waiting ahigh time to drow my spritual sward from my segeba. selam
taw #57,
All Ethiopians are, indeed, real Ethiopians but the OLF people including you, feeble-minded, fake, faithless, godless, tasteless, and rotten person. Sooner or later, I will get rid of you, using not weapons but my precious and purposely documented words. Instead of mimicking what the other person have said about me, bring your own fighting words and fight me, you sissy, purposeless, rootless, and lazy son of a mendicant father and a slut mother.
It is true; Ethiopians, especially the Amharas, are more intelligent than your fiendish OLF that have no lives of their own, that they don’t exist by themselves without a life support, and their life support are the Amharas.
taw, I wish you an eternal sleep not in heaven but in hell!
You say “wake up.” I will say go back to the 1st century man and learn his discreetness, you ugly and untouchable creature!
Anonymous #54,
I will assure you, you will never be like me, and I don’t want you to be like me: Just be yourself and mind your own business if you have one; if not, I shall be glad to offer you one.
Assta B. Gettu,
your frustration and identitiy complex is rapidly making you uncontrolleable monster. Even the tyranny Weyane does not use the hatred and insults words which you are spitting out on fellow Ethiopians today. If you have bad private experiences with the OLF cadres, you can go and talk with them privately. Otherwise don’t mess with Oromos and Amharas people who are the parts and parcel of our society. You are motivated and controlled by your immotionality and spontaneity rather than your mind which is based on rationality. Whethere the Oromos or Amharas peoples, they don’t want peremission or allowance from you to work together to give the country which they have built together a new demoratic face. By working together they will build a new peacefull, prosperous, stabil and democratic Ethiopia on your sulchy and hatred idea grave.
God save us from the disasterous Assta !
God bless Ethiopia and it’s peoples !
TO ALL ETHIOPIANS,
specially the Oromos who are being attacked again and again by the so called Assta B. Gettu, i advice you just to consider as if this guy is not existing and go on with your UNITY work. But if you know him personally, please help and take him to the nearst hospital. Otherwise please don’t try to tear down his glutton stomach which is making him unhuman.
An Advice to Ethiopians from an Eritrean,
Ethiopians should cease this opportunity to unite themselves. Weyane, its haste desire to loot the countries resources, has been employing an ethnic-based divide and rule system that it hoped to use for a century. Ethiopians have to rise above this cheap trick and affirm their unity both in practice and in declaration. That would finish weyane off.
Any other avenue will only elongate the life-cycle of this monster.
Dear Super man #70,
Of course, I didn’t give you a five-minute break; instead, I gave you a 30-year break, and now you want me to give you another 30-year break. Alas, I am fed up with your indolence and daily complaints! This time though, I am going to scourge your damn ass not with whips you are used to but with scorpions. I say strongly, NO MORE BREAK for you! Time is up! Go to work and don’t complain too much.
My ethnicity should not be the main factor for you to say to me: “እንደ መቃብር የተከፈተው አፍህን ዝጋ.” I live in the west, and I am free to open my mouth at any time and talk about any subject I like. If you are living in Ethiopia, then clothe your dirty mouth and shut up. If you want to open your mouth and say something, you must first ask permission from your master Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi) and say only what he wants you to say. The beauty of the west is I can say anything I want, and I can write anything I want to write.
I have never met the few personalities you mentioned in your comment, and I don’t understand why you mentioned their names here. Are you telling me those people are Amharas, and you think I am Amhara too? Continue guessing!
It seems you want to know the root causes of Ethiopia’s problems; I will tell you what caused all these turmoil in the country except in some areas in the Tigre province such as in Mekelle. The first main cause of the Ethiopians problem is the death of His Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie by the hands of the number one killer – Mengistu Haile Mariam. The second cause of the problem of our country is the other killer – the OLF – who has betrayed the Amhara Freedom Fighters in Asmara. These two causes have created further causes of the Ethiopians’ problems, and these are the seizers of power by a poor, hungry, and greedy Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi), who had never seen a dime before, but when he came to power he saw all doors to the Ethiopian resources were opened, and he started looting the wealth of Ethiopia until he became a bilinear; then his cabinet ministers who saw the looting, started looting as the Amharic saying has it: “እንደ ንጉሡ ያጐነብሱ.”
First, you do not know who my people are, and my people never created “ጋላ ገዳይ ድርጅት.” In fact, the OLF has killed many Amharas; therefore the OLF must have an “ኣማራ ገዳይ ድርጅት” or “ነፍጠኛ ገዳይ ድርጅት.”
I refuse to leave you alone until you tell me voluntarily your motives in creating the OLF movement, and if you have something to say, say it; don’t hold it back. You see, the good aspect of the Ethiopian Review is it allows its readers to say anything they want, and this kind of freedom the Ethiopian Review offers its readers makes it unique from the other web sites. You better use this web site, but don’t abuse it before it closes its door.
You are talking about spiritual sword and segeba: You may draw your sword from its segeba, but from where are you going to draw your spirituality? Yes, sword goes with segeba, and spirituality goes with what? Something that matches with spirituality is missing here. I advise you to go to kine school and learn parallel writing.
እሁየ: ሰላም ለከ ወሰላም ለሰብአ ቤትከ!
MR. GETU I have read alot of your articles on jewish religion and christianity and others including your opinion in different websites. Mr. yewalashet pin pointed to you if you do have problems with the organization called OLF you can talk to them in the way you like but i will tell you ‘kezih yewahina gerager ye oromo canqa lay ileminihalew wured’ leave alone the leaders of any freedom fighters but i do have a great respect for those who fight in the front line from any organizations in the jungle fighting for human and democratic right and equality. I can assure you with 100% that eventhough OLF perished the problem of the subject people remains on the air and needs to be correctly addressed. I oncce again suspect that you are agent of devil/weyane or adharian. If in case you are extrimist amhara fuction please get off from the shoulder of this gerager, yewah, bechigar geze metegia, yemiabela yemiateta hizb, bicha bizu bizu tew atnekakun’ asfelagi hono ketegenge ye oromian midir beissa meqiter yichalal.For the rest of peace full amharans please fight this garbage idea to live for the future in mutal respect. ITt is nice for you mr, gettu to vomit you heart ache but the objective reality wil never ever and ever like as you think. Really let us live and you will notice what will happen in ethiopia in the near future. That is all about. ende lalibela afihin atkifet muya belib new. Yeante dinfata yegomen terara new ishee yene extrimist. Think for the majority of innocent amharans. Selam.
LOL! this trouble maker woyannee called Asta Gettu is going crazier by the minute. Ethiopians need to be aware that Assta is one of those snakes in the grass who are working for TPLF to divide Ethiopians by ethnic groups. Asta, please do yourself and the rest of us a favor, go away for a while and give us all a break.
Mr’Super man you wrote
“few adharian like your cousin ‘milion aleqa’ Ayalsew Desse , ‘Dr.’ Ermias and the likes.Paradoxically i do have agreat honour and appriciation to Dr. Getachew, Dr. Birhanu and
ato Andargachew”
Look sir I am Ethiopia first and then what ever.Lately i have becopme extremely uncomfortable with the views of some Ethiopian intellectuals who are pursuing distractive policy of what they call engagment with Shabia and Lfits.I am not for fudalism,not for secissionism,I stand to promote democracy,tolerance,the spirit of accommodation to see Ethiopia advance forward.If you think the firist group above are against you because they refuse to embrace your political agenda;while the second group are in bed with you it is your own proregative to assert that.But Ethiopia is so big a nation we need not to box individuals and groups by saing if they fail to support my plan then they ar my enemies;if they support my aim they are my friends.This I think is a wrong political dicotomy;beside consider where this one will lead: nowhere.Face the facts the,the OLF does not the backing of the entire oromo people.But Ethiopia is inhabited by Amharas ,Tigrians, Oromos Sidamas,Somalias Afars,Gurages etc.It has been correctly stated the problem of Africa in general and Ethiopia in particular is hunger,illitracey,poverty disease.These are our common enemies that are haunting our people.It make no sense to ignore this fact and to think tangetally if some people severe ties with their Mother lamnd then they will be better of.Wrong !I tend to believe no individual or segment of asocity will transend above the nation it is a part of to construct a super smart super man nation.If it is allowed it will more likely will be a nation ruled by super calan elites for their own specified purpose.You seeEthiopians lived side by side with different ligustic groups for millioniums,and they wont fall in to the entapments of Lfits to murder each other.No no no Lfits are the enemy of future Ethiopia.If you think thows of us who dont support Olf are your enemies so be it.Let Brihanu,Getachew,and Andargachew join you.I tell they have already lost the support of the Amharas of Wello,Gondar,Gojam and I will say even Shewa and the support other Ethiopians who invision a united Ethiopia.
Yewalashet #73
Where do you get the notion the Amharas and the Oromos are parts of your societies? To which society do you belong? I don’t think you know it; however, the Amharas are not like the Oromos part of the society: they are the whole – the whole pie, not part of the pie. The Oromos are part of the Amharas but not the whole pie. The Amharas are the whole pizza, and parts of that pizza are the Oromos and the other tribes. The Amharas have never been part of anything; they have always been the whole, the sum, the total. One cannot see the Amharas through the Oromos’eyes, but one can see the Oromos through the Amharas’ eyes. This means you cannot understand the Oromos through the Oromos, but you can easily understand the Oromos through the Amharas. Did you get it?
You the isolated crazy Assta B. Gettu, you are the sun of bustard who was born in OROMIA and identically unknown radical X-EPRP member. So that is why you are accusing the Oromos and their well respected front the OLF as the cause of your identity complex. You were born, grown and educated in OROMIA by nourishing in it. You don’t have any right to open your shoe-stinking mouth to comment on any Oromos Organizations. We do not expect from Oromos super-enemy like you any positive thing. You are not only anti-Oromos, but also anti-Ethiopian Peoples Unity. But i will assure you that the time is not far away when you will be draged out from your present clandstine place for what you are doing now. The whole Ethipians do not have a place either for parasites or for hyperparasites.
Assta #80,
you see ? That is why many Ethiopians including me say you are out of your mind, or you are alcholist. You say that the Oromos can not see you, except you the Amhara can see them. Really this is childish and crazyness. 100% i believe that you are either alcholist or junky who is sarounded by empty and full bottles, and drugs. Help yourself my brother. This is the West culture which you admire. We Ethiopians we love each other and stand united.
Hateful Woyanne #78,
I am glad you know I am a snake or “temen.” In fact, I am more than a snake: I am a “mendel.” I can bite and paralyze you for your entire life. Don’t mess with a snake unless you know snake-charming technique by playing a hypnotizing music in front of the snake.
You are pestering me to leave you alone and go somewhere else for a while; I am not going anywhere until I baptize you by fire and bring you back to the family of God – the Ethiopian Christians.
Elias,
I wonder why you tolerate Asta this much? I have my suspicion, but isn’t Asta standing against everything what you and your association stand for? How can you bring Ethiopians together to get rid off the slaughter of Amharas, Oromos, Gurages, Kembatas, Gambelas and even our Tigrea brothers and sisters, if you let people like Asta belittling one’s ethnic group or religion all day long?
My dear Tilahun #81,
I am surrounded by multitude of people and heavenly hosts; therefore, I am an outspoken, healthy, vivacious, humorous, and down-to-earth person, not an insane like one of the OLF members. OLF never has the respect of the Oromo people or the respect of the Amhara people. It doesn’t even have the respect of its own members. They are always fighting among themselves for power in case Meles is forced out from power. They don’t think there are other Ethiopians who can qualify for that power. They are counting on their majority to be the only rulers of Ethiopia.
Oh yes, I like the milk, the honey, the meat, the coffee, and the gold Oromia offers to its inhabitants, and that is why I am fighting hard not to give away Oromia to the worthless people – the OLF. I know when I go back, I don’t expect I will find all those natural products my Oromia has been producing. They all will be gone to India or to Saudi Arabia. It is too bad to find that fertile land of Oromia has been stripped of all its resources, all its tress, all its wild animals, all its lash grass, all its caws, horses, sheep, goats, and all its rivers are poisoned by the chemicals from the Indian factories in Oromia. The children of Oromia will have a hard time to concentrate on their studies because their brains are affected by the poisonous lead from the water they drink. The Indians care only about their prophets, not about the health of the Oromo children. The OLF, instead of fighting the Indian companies that is polluting the water, the air and everything Oromia has been famous for, are fighting the neftegna. So when I go back to Oromia, I will find a barren land, polluted water, polluted air, and millions of sick children.
It is true; Ethiopians will not have a place for the traitor OLF; let it rote in foreign country, but Ethiopia belongs to me and I to her. She has a respected place for me and for those who are like me.
My dear Tilahun, where do you go from here? Where will be your destination? Perhaps, Qaliti jail! Are you ready for that? Ready or not, you will have no choice except to be perished with those of your likes who are destined to perish.
To Mr. getu and your cousins,
First and foremost i am aperson who search reality.Ofcourse,being born from oromo i do have 1000% to support OLF or others.My point is oromos have long standing questions to be resolved.Please dont speak on behalf of oromo people do your business in which you are engaged in. Please! please! PLEASE! dont indiscriminatly insult the entire ethinic group as awhole.ene inkwan endante balege aydelehum inji bezu yeminageribet alegn take it as atip ( lemehonu manew Abay wenz lay doro ,fiyel,lam bere yemiyardew? manew qumtawn zor adrgo yemitsedadaw iski yenegeta wede Bahir dar biq belina kemishitu 12 seat lay hizbu min endemisera temelket). Sele ginbot 7 ameraroch yalachihu neger ale. Surprisingly, i sware to god i am not olf member nor supporter. But your vomit makes me to think twice.When the issue of olf raised why your hair stands/your temp. boils.Again and again i tell you and warn you unless you check up your nazist thinking( arian race style) you will grab nothing for the future. Yeweyane qulf beije ale. Through out time i was wondering what was in your heart but knowingly or unknowingly you vomited your extreme hatrage towards oromos and southerners. I will add only one thing God has approched you through ginbot 7 and other important personalities to embarass you but you didnt want the mercy of GOD AS ARESULT YOU WILL TEST THE FIRE. In the near future you will see who is the looser. selam tena yistilign!
Enough is enough #84,
Elias stands for freedom of speech, for the love of his country men and women – for all the Ethiopians: the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, and for many other people. So, what do you want Elias to do for you? Do you want him to bar those whom you don’t like because their views are against yours? You must remember where Elias is living; he is not living in a dictator’s land where everyone’s mouth is muzzled, every private newspaper is censured, and every journalist who criticizes the government is picked up from his home or from the street and sent to jail. But here in the west, every person has the right to criticize the president, the Church, the pastor, the imam, the rabbi, the Constitution, the Sharia law, the Bible, the Quran, and the world. If you don’t like constructive criticism, don’t post any comment, sit back, and read the comments you like. You have no right to force Elias, the Chief Editor, to prevent other people from commenting and posting their views. Be a man! Don’t cry like a new born baby! You are not on milk; you are on solid food. Don’t tell a lie; I am not purposely disparaging anyone: yes, it is true; I challenge any religious denomination, any political organization, and any issues I deem unacceptable. What is wrong with that? I got a lot of emails and telephone calls from several people who love my comments and encourage me to continue commenting. But people like you who have never been exposed to new ideas get shocked and say to Elias: “Enough is enough.” That is the only thing they know, and there is nothing they can do about it.
Yewalashet #80,
I am neither an alcoholic nor a druggist. I am a normal human being who is fascinated by sound commentators and inspired by those who boldly criticize and denounce the OLF as an enemy’s tool to divide Ethiopia and create animosities among her citizens. I like people who tell the truth, but you are a lair when you said, “We Ethiopians love each other and stand united.” I see you fighting every day for a piece of bread, for a piece of land, and for a glass of water. I see you neighing after someone’ wife; I see you stealing someone’s property. A person who loves his brother does not steal his brother’s money; a person who loves his brother does not violate his brother’s wife, and a person who loves his brother does not wish bad luck for his brother.
I see you telling a lie in your comment; you said at the end of your comment, “my brother….” How can a person who calls his brother an alcoholic and a druggist say to him my brother? And let me tell you the truth. You are not my brother, and I am not your brother. Don’t pretend you are my brother, because you are not.
Asta,
Due to one’s circumstances and where one went to school, English language doesn’t come easy to some of us. Using the word “different” instead of “difference” and not using proper punctuation is not the same as not having commonsense, reasoning and wisdom. In the long run, writing in proper English grammar can be learned and improved with practice and reading. But I’m afraid, no matter how one master the English language, the lack of “COMMONSENSE” and “WISDOM” can’t be learned and those individuals always be a headache for others like Woyanne thugs. Asta, why do you become like a high school bully when people disagree with you? You seem to be very angry, short-fused and unstable. The majority of people have spoken against you, please get the clue that your views are backward, extreme and highly offensive.
So far out of the 88 comments that have been made, about 27 of them are made by Asta and the other 37 came from who oppose and despise Asta. And about 25 or so gave their independent views on Dr. Tolosa’s article.
Because of undercover woyanes like Assta Getu, it is unfortunate that, important information that came from #7Mulugheta(from Germany) gets ignored.
Elias, please follow up on what #7 is talking about.
Thank you Mulugheat from Germany for sharing this disturbing and yet very important news with us. I hope the opposition leaders and various Ethiopian Associations follow up on the story.
Listen Assta B. Gettu: Have you seen your psychiatrist recently? I am sure he/she has told you that you are psychotic or psychopathic? Do you know the difference? If you are Amahara, as you claim, even you ancestor in the 15th century haven’t had such view/opinion. Do you think you have learning disability? i.e. R U an imbecile?.
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My friend Assta
I am not sure if you have understood my statement. I said you may predict but not always accurately. History written in Ethiopia is of the Amhara Dynasties and it had never included the contributions of any other people. Take Tekel Tasdik Mekuria. Or Zewde.
For example they would not say Haile Selassie Murderd Zewditu instead the say she was instantly passed away. But another European historian said it as it is. She was killed and thrown outof her legitemate thron and Haile Sellase became a reigning prince. He overthrew her govenement by military force.
Look at the true contribution of Germame Nuway and Mengistu Nuway. Both are Oromos from Shewa. You guys took them as your own. When you distort history and teach people false history; you design it to make people believe you and accept your dominance. You are propogating the same lines of thoughts. I have been told millions time lies and you keep propogating lies. In hisory if the elements of true are missing for sure the system that propogates the falshood will perish.
For example they were telling us about the Solomonic Dynasty and it had been there for centuries and will continue so but it never happened and it never continued. You guys and girls statred scrathing you heads because the people realise what was written was trurly, squarely, inaccurately false.
Tolosa was not saying all people in the History of the Empire Oromos; he said some of them were Oromos and contributed toward the formation of the current Empire.
Assta, really if you want to be truthful to yourself stop such line of argument that One Ethiopia before anybody. It will not serve your political startagies at all. Bring people together and tell them they are the ones who could decide whatever they want to do about their fate. At this junction of our historical moment people are well aware of their situations and they accurately know what they want and what is better for them. When you say One Ethiopia you may tell people as Old conservative were advocating and all people in the Empire should speak one language only your Amharic. I do not mind speaking it and learning it but I do not want someone to push his wishes and cutlture forceful while killing my language and culture. That is not just and justice denied in any system means a revolution and you had it two times within three decades and another big one is coming because the people of Oromia, Ogaden, Tigray, Sidama, including the Amharas have been denied justic, freedom and liberity. That is always true. Watch it is coming and I can surely sense it from your frgightened emotionally charge arguments. When united truly our people will stop you and your history and falsehood propoganda will dry like a small pond in Afar during winter.
Good luck my friend your dream will never become true if you continue your baseless assertions.
Why do you not advocate to unite our people and save them from hunger and death rather than dividing them to make them victim unjust rules?
First of all I think Assta B. Gettu is misunderstood by many of us so I think some of us are just guessing his words with our preconceived feeble views. Some of you attack him based on your religious background I am sure many of you are the children of Luther the creater of Protestantism and some of you like Grign the mad dog are a radical Moslim you hate him. You can not stand him his deep knoledge of religion makes you little it drives you in to the wall of impenetrable ignorance. So some of you the truth makes you sick, so why d’not you live with it or die because of the hard truth in front of your ugly face. From the start you should not start to bite more than you can chew. I am sure the majority of you with big mouth who insult Assta B. Gettu are feeble minded children of Luther. You look like unhappy lazy elementary students with their smart teacher’s tough homework. Do not act childish please so do not change your name to insult Assta B. Gettu keep your name then say whatever you think vased on the reality and the fact do not insult him. Please keep your insanity do not jump from the cliff. Please before we say it let us try to digest what it says I have never read in the past Assta B. Gettu saying unnecessary things unless someone is saying directly or indirectly anti-Ethiopia or his beloved Ethiopian Orthodox church. By the way I also admire our beloved doctor Tolosa he is one of our hero to Ethiopia’s unity he has fought with so many of her enemies. So I smell rat Number 84 Enough is Enough I think you might be the old Gragn, Are you asking Elias to use censorship just like Meles to keep your weak feeling do not hope Elias will not use censorship in order to keep some individuals’ feeling like you let Assta B. Gettu say whatever he thinks if you do not have a thick skin I think you should not read his postings Assta B. Gettu has added more matterial to read on this sight than most of us here so are you trying to make this web sight dead just like pro TPLF web sights? such as Ethiopia first if you go and look Ethiopia First now days beside Ben himself nobody visits that cursed web sight. So do not censor Assta B. Gettu. Assta B. Gettu has contributed for this web sight I think more than his share so let us keep the avenue of openness wide for everyone to say whatever in our mind.
Number 92 Geremew isaatuu I think you are a man in a body of 60 years old with a 10 years old child brain. You are an idiot of course without doubt. Mengistu and Girmame were taken as ours because they are Ethiopians you should know Ethiopianism does not trace from which trive someone belongs or comes like you do. You muscle head do you know the different Oromo identities in the 21st century there are many such as in religion, wealth, geographic and linguistic etc. Oromos are different among each other from other Oromos just like any other Ethiopian tribes so beside language why don’t you see the different Oromo aspects why do you insist only on language. For instance for an Oromo Moslim he or she might want to be with an Amhara or Gurage etc. Muslim than an Oromo protestant person. If you ask me my personal liking I might choose to be with any Ethiopian Orthodox person than being associate than my own ethnic background individual protestant or Muslim person. however I would also choose an Ethiopian Protestant or Muslim than other countries’ Christians.Because of our Ethiopian background ties us unless you are an enemy of Ethiopia just like TPLF members and its supporters. We must see each other as brothers and sisters so do not have a myopic view expand your small horizon do not give sense only to language attachment alone. So click on other links to open the remaining or other attachments. There are many links you have never seen in front of your eyes with your miserable 60+ years you idiot wild horse. Why do you sense to language alone you zany childish man. rather true Ethiopianism traces who we are from our common Ethiopian heritage. What kind of animal are you? you bone head jackass.
My dear Stoned Peter #93 & 94,
I am glad to hear from you again, and I thank you so much for defending me against hordes of Gog Magog with their filthy mouths and uncircumcised hearts.
If God had not sent you today to defend me, they could have chewed me, swallowed me, and satisfied their wicked souls with my flesh, bones, and blood. I am very thankful to God for sending you to me. It was the prophet Isaiah who once said: “Unless the Lord Almighty had left us descendants, we would have become like Sodom, we would have been like Gomorrah” (Isaiah 1:9).
May God bless you, my friend!
Stoned Peter
You do not even understand the meaning of your pen name truly.
He was stoned for his revolutionary believe that wanted to avoid all baseless warships but one God. He was a good disciples of Jesus and was a good student. A dedicated teacher and follower of Christ. He got stoned and was denied himself when he was hanged not to be put on scaffold like Jesus was hang up right. He was hang with his body up side down.
He was a man from Middle East who advocated the equality of men and women under the eyes of God and you as human being say you are above the rest of us in the Ethiopian empire. You know the 12 Disciples were borderless and they preached to all humans but you curse whine instead of saying what you are supposed to say. Unite under my name!! United in one sprit of freedom and liberty to see a truly heavenly social system among the trodden and wrenched of the Ethiopian empire.
I will be glad to be a 10 year old baby or a 60 years wise man and both of them are people who were given a gift of nature their brains. It is not the age that matters it is the idea that you suggest that matters more than any thing. As a 10 year old child I do not understand you because you are scaring me with your notorious riotous statements. As a 60 years old man; I do not see any wisdom and patience in your statements. You may not come across words that say listen and dialogue. The time has passed where you may become belligerent in your words and deeds; people will not let you do it even if you want. By the way why do you think my statements are not valid? I want to see your challenges to refute my reasoning instead of getting angry. I have given my reasons and refute them. Instead of getting irritated. Keep reading books of history and religion or other materials that may help you understand most of us. I can specifically say you luck some kind of basic information about humanity and human rights violations. Without knowing it you
are getting violent verbally.
I can see you have never touched pages of the Holly Bible or you never understood its meanings if you had gone through it. For me it is one of the best books that carries the message of our God and I respect all ten commandments and specially the one that says, “Do not lie.” In Amharic, “Attiiwashuu, atiktefu” you are a lying Peter stoned. So Assata. Ask for forgiveness from our God/Allah for lying to the people of the Empire for your material Earthly profits. ” O God give Stoned Peter your mercies , he is so ignorant about your true words,” justice in the Ethiopian Empire. Amen
Dear Geremew Isaatuu #92,
You are arguing about some famous Ethiopian individuals whom you think were Oromos; for example, you said ገርማሜ ንዋይ and መንግሥቱ ንዋይ were from Oromia. What about ኰሎኔል ወርቅነህ ገበዬሁ? Was he also from Oromia? I know him where he was from. He was born at መገንዲ ጊዮርጊስ about 10 miles from ደብረ ታቦር. You can claim him if you want too. It doesn’t matter whether these people belonged to Oromia or Tigray; they were all Ethiopians; therefore they were Amharas or Oromos or Tigryans.
Your claim reminds me about some worldly Church groups whom St. Paul denounced: “What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe –as the Lord has assigned to each his task” (1st Corinthians 3:5).
I will ask you the same question St. Paul asked some Church members in his time. What was ገርማሜ ንዋይ? What was መንግሥቱ ንዋይ? And what was ኰሎኔል ወርቅነህ ገበዬሁ? All of these individuals had been servants of the Ethiopian people in their times, and they are gone now. They are not any more with us, so what do you want from them? You want their heritages to be the heritages of the Oromo people. Go ahead and claim their heritages as your own heritages if their genuine history allows you to do so.
My friend Stoned Peter has answered the rest of your questions appropriately; go and read #94.
Have a pleasant day!
Anonymous replies:
February 25th, 2012 at 4:36 PM
Germame neway is mixed, oromo father and amara mother. Many know that but if you want to make sure just go and look how amara historian introduce him. His mother and grandfather (from mother side) is glorified. Do I care who he is no, HIM is also a mixed but grown up in conservative orthodox environment to undertsand the nations and nationalties. Although he is mixed with more of oromo blood he worked against Oromia. I dont like when people say they are mixed but work on glorify one section and degrade the other, That is the problem with Ethiopia upto now which should stop for good otherwise you cant see Ethiopia in the near future. For me free Oromia will solve that. I dont think we have any hope after the TPLF exploited the system and used the last chance that could have kept us together .
For those of you who still think oromos can not free themselves,the same is said for Ertrea. It only needs a leadership with enough gut who resist the outside infulence. The people are ready long ago. My worries is when you wanna keep the status and cant even deal with the most moderate oromo, like the current OLF leaders, you will get the worse who works only for independece. I know it cost many life but better than living in himulation for life. It can come, If Jabaha gave birth to EPLF and we dont know what Ethiopian lover OLF will give birth too. OLF is not sucessful because it preaches Ethiopian unity from inside although it says selfdetermination outside. If it stands only for independence, the money and man power would flow to it. If the empre prison speaks afaan Oromo, I would have thought long ago there is a problem and transformation. It only needs a
Mr.Geremew Issatu you have raised some questions conserning Ethiopian past history.I thought i like to give responses to your questions.Among aother things you claimed the following.
“History written in Ethiopia is of the Amhara Dynasties and it had never included the contributions of any other people. ”
I like to think this statment is a slip of a tounge;if not I dispute your claim. O it is not true at all! The written history of Ethiopia begins to cronicle events begning from its foundation Axsum.There fore until the Zagwei Dynasty the personages that dominated the history page apper to be from that area.Then the scene moved a little East of Axsum to Lalibela area.Here the history focuses on the people of Agaw who were dominant at the time.Then scene moved to Shewa and from 1200 AD to 1974 most of the people who ruled Ethiopia have Amhara -Tigray background,the majority of them from Amhara.In the light of what I said what do you say to your assertion.
Second,You stated Autor Tekletsaduk Mekuria some how failled to accurtely state the circumstamces of Queen Zewditus death .For instance,you said foreign autors reported the ccause of her death as murder,while Teklesadik said she instantly pssed out.i remember reding his books about Ethiopian history ,however I cnt recal what how he reported this even at the moment.Let me accept your statment as true for our argment.Personally I dont think any one has the exact fcts at what happend at that time.This is true both to Ethiopian and foreign autors.We can infer various writers that she died from court intrigue,in todays terms we might say politcally motivated murder,which was a common factior in Ethiopian politics of that fudal era. Remember, history in general does not give definitive answer for every issue.Historians of the many events selectively report about important events and personalities that may have played in shaping events.This is generally true in the history of any nation though it may differ from autor to autor in some cases.Tekelesadik is reporting that event some where in the 1950 and is using perhaps evidence from eye witnesses as well as written account.In this case all I can say is there has to be room for disagreement among writers on the question of how she died.I have said she died of intrigue,by what means no one can be dogmatic,you have to draw your own conclusion form various authors.
First of all I do not claim to have a deep knoledge on the bible I am acctually an ignorant. However number 96 Geremew Isaatuu, mister wise man I think if I am not wrong if I am found wrong, I am ready to be corrected that Peter was not a revolutionary rather he was true dissciple of Christ. If you want to know who was a revolutionary you can call Marxwith socialism and communism, Darwin on evolution and an ex catholic monk Luther from German the creator of the rotestant religion in the 16th century etc. those above I mentioned and other unmentioned individuals can be called revolutionaries I do not think Peter can be called a revolutionary since neither he did reduce nor increase from his lord’s or Christ’s teaching by the way it was Christ who taught about fairness, and love, helping the weak etc. then Peter and the rest continued with Christ’s work as himself did while he was on earth. So you can not call Peter a revolutionary I hope Assta B. Gettu will say something on this topic. Geremew Isaatuu it is funny since you know what is on the bible as I have inferred from your words why do you hate Ethiopia as you can read the bible it was god himself and godly individuals who called Ethiopia. I do not think Oromia is in the bible yet unless you made your own bible. I do not think you can get the word Oromo or Oromia in any book older than half of your age so why do you act against your god mind you as you know the word Oromia or Oromo is as old as your first grand child’s age. So if you like it or not the name Ethiopia is here to stay for good because of God’s wish and promise. By the way I support 100% the word Oromo to be used if the people want to be called. So let us stop bickering because we do not need to give a free ride to Meles and his Mafia group I am sure Meles and Bereket are happy right now because they are not the topic of our talk so I will not say more thing after now unless you force me to say.
Assta
Yes, Colonel Workneh Gebeyehu Dulla is an Oromo by origin but grew up in Gonder. His father was Dejachmach Gebeyehu Dulla who was a governor in Godnder.
Now you have asked me a meaty question that I love to answer. Yes the Eastern parts of Gondar specially Debere Tabor is geographically in the province of Gonder but historically it was a city of the rulers of the country including Ras Ali of Wallo. He reigned over the north parts of the Empire for solid 71 years. For sure you know that accurately. Besides the Goderians and the Wallo Oromos have been marrying for centuries now and Debere Tabor naturally must be a district that has been populated by Godonerians and Oromos from Wallo. Not only that most of the people in Wallo are Oromians. You know it; history know it; and people themselves know it. To make sure just write few words in Wallo. Waldayia, Wara Yilluu, Qooboo, Kamise, Wara Yimanu, Burree, Kombolcha and Gugsa, and so forth you could tell the names of the places and people are Oromo names and the people are claiming to be Oromos. I could for sure ascertain to you Workenh Gebeyehu Dulla was an Oromo colonel from Wallo yet gallant and fierce.
Also to make sure my statements, please ask the people from Debera Tabor about this personal history. They will tell you for sure the truth; people have never denied their origins. But there are some pretenders who did not know about their roots and are confused about their origins by people like you. For whatever reason I am not making you believe in what I have said, but I am telling you the truth.
For the rest of your questions dig the books of History on Ethiopia. I suggest one to you and that is a book written by David Mathew, the title of the book is Ethiopia: 1835 to 1935.
For those Oromians who know they are Oromos but denied themselves by the confusions of history their authentic origins, I pray for them one day they will realize who they are and they know for sure they are proud Africans who are Oromos by origin. I pray to God one day history will be written right by the people
about themselves- The Oromians!!