Former president Mengistu Hailemariam is planning to move to South Sudan, according to Reporter. The government of South Sudan has finished building a new house for the former president who is currently living in Zimbawe, Reporter added quoting informed sources.
Southern Sudanese are apparently grateful to Mengistu Hailemariam for providing them with {www:invaluable} assistance during their liberation struggle against the Khartoum regime.
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love,
When Mengistu said Ethiopia Tikdem he really meant it but that is of course second to him. Mengistu kehullu yikedimal malet new iko. Ishii?
As far as saving his sweet life is concerned it is above all else precious (Mengistu kehullu belay yikdem) to be saved in order to enjoy life for all the sacrifices he has made regardless of what we happen to think about him. Since he saved his life in good time he may now conspire to come back and rule over Ethiopia for the second time. Dead patriots can not come back and do anything regardless of all the mountains of praises and medals being heaped upon then posthumously.
People don’t love Tyrant Mengistu because he happens to be an innocent angel but simply because people HATE the more tyrannical tplf currently torturing and dispossessing the 80 million people and still actively going strong. Additionally, just for the sake of balancing, deep rooted hate and tribalistic superiority complex is as dangerous as deep rooted hate and tribalistic inferiority complex.
#47.Anonymous
You are right to say that Mengistu is also a killer. He is trained for that and he knows his profession very very well. That is why he is not afraid to jump in to the fighting for an opportunity at hand. Endless rationalizations and around the world miles of endless writings after writings as an end is not part his worldly practices whether we like it or not.
Wayanes have long been enriched, domesticated are too fat and too slow for the wild tiger Mengistu currently looking for habitual wrongdoers to be punished beyond repair mercilessly and publicly. He has long been practicing regular body building and oriental marshal art skills. That means that he is in a steel body and super sharp terrestrial mind. In addition to that, both the Chinese and the Russians are rising up and competing for global resources and power. Hmmm… :)
To start with he can even recruit famous international mercenary fighters and leading private security firms promising them Sheik Al Almoudi’s gold mines alone. Think about the skyrocketing current gold prices in the face of the world economic instabilities and uncertainties.
Please don’t ever tell this secret of mine to the frightened tplf and the bickering docile opposition still keep licking their various wounds.
Mengistu Hailemariam is buying properties in South Sudan . That do not mean his primary place of residence is South Sudan . Mengistu Hailemariam is trying to keep his wealth near to Ethiopia as much as possible . He is going to create many job opportunities to Ethiopian immigrants within South Sudan . Well done Mengistu hailemariam . You are like a good bottle of wine . You are being more and more marvelous with age .
ke tigray yemibenew ye temene binagn kedebub sudan derso yasmetsew neber
If democracy means everyone should comment on every issue I don’t want it! Very sickening indeed. Some of you just practice writing on such forum. Reading is also participation and why don’t you read and shut up? Do not litter the forum with Nigerian spam message.
#50.Anonymous,
“Who cares about Mengistu? He was a commander in chief abundned his fellow solders in the middel of a war, unless we have amnesia , it’s not worth to talk about.” you stated
Okay, but do you really blame the angry black commander in chief for cleverly sensing at that point the fact that the last hour has arrived as far as he is concerned and ate his last supper in the company of his last seen friends or disciples,ordered his clean private jet LOADED with tones of gold bars, sacks of foreign currency notes, hundreds of boxes of whiskeys and cognac bottles to be ready and standby and then took shower, shaved himself clean, dressed in his three pieces well tailored woolen suits accompanied with quality shirt and fitting neck tie after which he peacefully drove to the airport whistling and boarded his waiting plane, alas heading to the Kenyan border “for inspection” but landed in Zimbabwe in good mood after lots of good food and prime quality original french cognac consumption on the fine VIP jet. All these, while the usual carnage and chaos were the evryday experiences of life in Ethiopia.
But of course Mengistu knew as to what will happen to the slow and the indecisive, say from the experience of the ex- Emperor and his top officials.
So my straight question for you: did you really wish for him that he should have let himself captured by the barefoot angry Wayane mountain guerrillas and then dragged along the dirtiest Addis Ababa streets to be hanged at the merkato bus stop just like Mengistu Neway who fell out with the ex-emperor?
I am 101% sure that not so many would have chosen the later alternative rather than the cheesy and lucrative former alternative even though as a born martyr some one would have chosen the later rather than the former as a matter of holy principle.
It is time to pay back. South sudanes get their freedom (humanity) back, the jump start was ethiopia with good heart and good cause. Ethiopia and ethiopians are in same position where they need all the help they can get from anyone willing to help. We need our humanity and freedom back. It will be appriated if the south could do that. Mengistu made mistake with out knowing it . Melese made a mistake with clear knowledge of it.H e is just a selfish bitch.
We can get rid of a divid and ruler and land grabers with or with out mengistus help. Mengistu has a blood that can boil for ethiopia, where as meles has a blood yelling for and caring only to his family and minority tibes. Mengistu was the only ethiopian leader who led the nation with no discremination. He killed every body, unlike meles and others who can save their tribes.
Do any body know what tribe mengistu is from? atleast not from “golden tribe.”
Mengistu would have to be a fool to relocate. He will be an easy prey for weyanes. He will not even last a month there.
President Mengstu was a loyal person to be trusted by Ethiopians. but he loss his power because of the collapse of Communist block Soviet union and East European countries.Mengstu was a revolutionary aganist the feudals. there was a civil war in Ethiopia. specially Italians Neger Eritrean EPLF fighters and their followers the Stupid Tigrean TPLf including EPRP made a civil war in Ethiopia white teror. Mengstu defend the country to stop all those anti Ethiopian powers. as the end they separate Eritrea from Ethiopia. Now Eritreans are crying to come back again to Ethiopia they are under ill treatment of the brutal stupid dictator on earth Isayas. what about meles and TPLF. Mengstu bombed TPLF and EPLF fighters in Northern Ethiopa and Meles is now bombing the Eastern Ogaden and south Ethiopia. Mengstu kill anti Ethiopian officially during the civil war but Meles kill those who love Ethiopians in a hidden way. Mengstu destroy the Enemey of Ethiopia forever look the Northern Sudan who help EPLF and TPLF now they are a loser because of mengstu sudan divided in to 2 and they never get strength to attack Ethiopia forever. look Somalia was the enemey of Ethiopia, Mengstu destroy them Totaly divided them in small parts. Somalia will never attack Ethiopia forever. mengstu was not a killer he was a nationalist the True son of Ethiopia and Africa. Mengstu is a person to be trusted even if he was a dictator but no body trust Meles at all even his supporters. he has a kind of Mafia dishonest behavier.
Elias, a good chance/reason for you to visit Southern Sudan.
#55. Raaji,
The test of democracy is freedom of criticism while the test of authoritarianism is the imposition of censorship.
“I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” ~Voltaire :)
Qeqa,
Were Ethiopia and Ethiopians worth the sacrifice in 1983 E.C.?
The reason woyannes were allowed to march straight to addis abebea, the coupe that was attempted before that, and EPRP’s refusal to accept derg even though following the same ideology all show that there are groups in Ethiopia (majority) who only accept one group to lead Ethiopia.
There is racism in Ethiopia. The Amahara generals and their servant Oromo commanders felt like they were fighting for mengistu than Ethiopia. They obey only an Amahara king or president.
A century earlier, Atse Tewoderos II suffered a similar fate by the Briritsh red coats with a help of his country men who felt that he is not legitimate — one of those anointed by God to lead Ethiopia.
Let alone mengistu, even Tewoderos’ sacrifice was in vain. We didn’t deserve it. Thank you, the ever wise menege.
What a Joke see below. If Economy is good why NGO are try to help Ethiopia. Ehiopia under Melesis is a modle for starvation not a model for Africa!!1
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S. Korean President hails Ethiopia’s economy as ‘model for Africa’
Friday, 15 July 2011
WE LOVE YOU MENGE, IF YOU WANT TO COME PLEASE DO IT, WE WILL DIE FOR YOU ONE MORE TIME!!!
All of you who hate Menge…You all are good for nothing!I even prefer woyanne than you…it is surprising that you still accuse Menge for the red terror…We are not stupid. We know every thing. You can’t fool us! Can you tell me what a red terror was?, and how it was happened?? …Though, I was not born then, I know everything! …Let me tell you…there were three reasons:(1)EPRP clearlly supported the 1969 Somalia/Ziad-Bare invasion…Crime#1;(2) EPRP again tried its best to demoralize Ethiopian solider in Ogaden front…crime #2;(3)finally EPRP declared a WHITE TERROR, the unsuccesful city war …crime #3!…right at this time dergue declared red terror to defend :the victims of your white terror, the innocents and the revolution…finally,when your boss,Tesfaye Debesay threw him self from the roof of Philips building…you rushed to Tigray and kicked out of Ethiopia by the northern wonbede,woyane. You Manure! Stop barking to our hero,MENGE. He was not thief…he even didn’t have a grass house in Ethiopia…he was not selfish…he fought all his life for the right of poors and to defend Ethiopia and its poor people from those mindless Dogs-shaibia and woyanne….look! I was only 7 when Menge left Ethiopia…if i were matured enough ,I sware, I would die for him then!!! Dear Menge…you are our hero forever! History and poor Ethiopian will never forget you!…During your time all of us eat teff…because, it costs only 48 birr per quintal! Now, it’s only woyanne cadres that are able to eat teff…we really missed you!
[Selamawi III],
You and the many similar comments in favor of Mengistu reveals about the desterbing state of your minds.That is is shows some how your moral judgments are impaired.It is a fact of wickd and evil people call good evil and evil good.According to many sane Ethiopians Mengistu is the eptom of Evil.He is the most selfish and self centerd brute who believe any one who criticizes his method must be elliminated.Mengistu to many is a psychologically disturbed person.There is good reason to believ such must be his case.it is a known fact Mengistu must have harbored a grudge against the ruling class as aresult of his life experiance.This is supported by his often expressed hate for U.S.It was the King tha send mengistu for military training to the U.S. After his return he excuted the entire cabienet Ministers with out trial.What is more till he was forced out of office he was anti anti U.S.Therefor he was a disturbed person. And his state of mind in the end harmed Ethiopia.BNow you seem tobelieve he will fight for your freedom. doyou have any clue wher he has been for the last twenty years?I answer my own question,he was chasing his beer bottle.Mengistu good for nothing,he is luky still lives,but the thens of thousends of innocent and brightest Ethiopians have pershid under his command.Ge.Tarku Gen Amaha desta,Dr.Tesfaye Debesay Brihane meskel Reda,Balu Grma,Indalkachew.Aklilu habteweld,Ge Banti an honest Ethiopian and the many.
Mengistu,Brihanu Baye,Legese Asfau,Fekreselasie Wegderes,Fisaha Desta,And Mengistu’s security chief need to be publicly excuted at meskel Square.Deth to all bandas be it TPLF Cadres or to the cadres of Mengistu.
#62.Anonymous,
“There is racism in Ethiopia. The Amahara generals and their servant Oromo commanders felt like they were fighting for mengistu than Ethiopia. They obey only an Amahara king or president…” you wrote
I agree with you about the existence of racism in Ethiopia. Even Wayanes are down right racists since they have been ruling racistically for the last 20 years and are still excising open and hidden racist forms domination, exclusion and governance. Wayane prime minister for life. Wayane generals leading Ethiopian armed forces. Wayane business persons and tplf affiliated monopolies dominating and exploiting the entire Ethiopian economy. Wayane gemgami cadres purging none Wayane military and civil servants that absolutely excludes Wayanes themselves from being evaluated/assessed and punished for any wrongdoing. The list can go…
You said that Amhara generals and their servant Oromo commanders felt like they were fighting for Mengistu than Ethiopia.
Here also you are partially right but don’t forget that soldiers unusually fight for their charismatic leaders whom they see in flesh, blood, bones, voices and movement but not so much for you abstract country called Ethiopia that does not talk, does not walk, does not rock, can not feel and may not even feed always.
Why should I blame the soldiers who were strictly trained to obey their commanders and fighting for the person who climbed on to the high podium and loudly proclaimed the slogan, “ETHIOPIA TIKDEM, ETHIOPIA WEIM MOT.” As far as the soldiers are concerned, Ethiopia is Mengistu and Mengistu is Ethiopia. Nothing more nothing less!
Absolutely I don’t accept what Mengistu’s regime have done but that is history now. For me this Mengistu thing is like flogging a dead horse.
Otherwise we are only being prone to attention diversion from the brutalities of the current minority tyranny that have been going on for the last 20 years. BEQA, BEQQA!
#66.Yonas Admasu,
“There is good reason to believ such must be his case.it is a known fact Mengistu must have harbored a grudge against the ruling class as aresult of his life experiance.This is supported by his often expressed hate for U.S.It was the King tha send mengistu for military training to the U.S. After his return he excuted the entire cabienet Ministers with out trial…” you wrote
I think that you are completely wrong. Mengistu did not have any clues about the revolution, the ruling class or hatred or personal grudges to start with. He was just a soldier but may of course remember the story of the Neway brothers, that is to say, Mengistu Niway and Germame Niway.
The whole revolution was planned, promoted and put in to practice by the student movements who in the end lacked effective organizational capacities and know-hows as a result of which the well organized military slowly but surely napped the leadership role from the students. Even within the military leadership, Mengistu was only an obscure lower level leader to start with but slowly and surely rose through the ranks and files initially through elections from within his own unit. Any way I am not at all an expert on the issue. mine is only a matter of informed common sense and that is okay with me.
This Mengistu thing is an old issue and I am sure that OLD tyrant parrot does not have even an iota of chances to do anything other than taking care of his weedy farm in Mugabestan. It is cunning Wayanes who are flogging the long dead horse (Mengistu) in order to claim credit from Ethiopians whom they are impoverishing and starving to death.
Otherwise please don’t confuse my good name, Selamawi III with that of King Mitswati III of Swaziland because he has 13 very young wives while I have only one. He assigned a budget of $15 million to build a palace for each of his 13 wives. But I bout a soft woolen scarf for my wife for $50.
He is an absolute king and absolute dictator while I am an absolute democrat and absolute commoner. Recently he bought himself a luxury car for $500,000 but I bought a bicycle for $200. Recently he bought a royal private jet for $45 million while bought a round trip flight ticket for $200. King Mitswati III is the second son of 67 sons of the late elderly King Sobhuza II and the only child of Queen Ntombi Tfwala one of the king’s 70 wives. King Mitswati III currently has 27 children but I have only one.
Why am I telling you all these? Just for your information so that you may not confuse my good name with that of king’s name or the royal family down there.
Sincerely,
Selamawi III
Yes he deserves that. A lot of my friends from Southern Sudan told me if it was not for him,today they would not have kept their identity.But we know who he is in Ethiopia.
But I tell you Menge,don’t go unless southern Sudan is strong enough to protect you from your enemies. I think you know many things that your enemies want to perish you. I have been told you are responsible for many lost life and some think you’re officials are. In any case, If it holds true that you are responsible for lost life,you were a dictator. and Mr.Melese Zenaw is also responsible for disintegrating the country. No man’s life is better than the sovereignty of a country,as heroes give their life as a price to keep their country’s sovereignty. So Mr.Melese is way responsible for the country’s mess and he won’t be lucky enough to get a house in Asmara.
If salt is not salt what good is it?Mengistu is not only a traitor ,he is also compulsive liar. He said he never killed Haile Selassie eventhough he did. He aproved and signed the killing of all the General and Ministers.I read the book by Guenet Anbese, he denied the killings he committed and was not remosefull of his actions.How could Ethiopians call him patrotic? I find it very hard to believe.I will acept his apologie if he talks the truth and he is remorsefull about his action but the simple and factual thing is Mingistu killed a country and ond bright future generation ; therefore what good is it if salt is not salt and doesn’t giver a toasted.
Tsion,
You sound like you were the member of THE FORMER DICTATOR’S PRIVATE POLITICAL CLUB otherwise known as ABYOTAWI SEDED. In a way it is good once in a while issues related to the former military officials discussed in this forums. So that it helps the many of us to discern between those who are democracy and change, and those who are still entertaining a RETURN TO THE DAYS OF DICTATORS AND MILITARY JUNTAS. TSION, In vain you look back IN HOPE OF THOSE those days to COME FOR YOU. You MIGHT AS WELL SETTLE FOR THIS: the future Ethiopia belongs to the new generation, to the generation of BIRTUKAN MEDEKSA, and to the CURRENT Patriotic young men and women of Ethiopia. In THE POST tplf Ethiopia, I guarantee you, previous members of the so called Mengiustu’s WORKERS PARTY, AND members of the WEYANE CABAL FRONT will never have a part to influence political events in the country one way or the other.
Remember this there will always be an administration of stringent criteria whether an Ethiopian is qualified to an office or not. In other words there will be such a question as this .WHAT IS THE BACK GROUND OF THIS PERSON? That is there anything BEHIND THIS PERSON OR what is KEBBESTEGERBAW?
Even now, if anyone has facts ABOUT THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OF PREVIOUS DERG OFFICIALS WHO HAPPEN TO RESIDE ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD, if one happen to have incriminating evidence about them I urge those WITH SUCH INFORMATION to come out with the facts so that the criminals can be charged of their crimes where ever they are. Let us not forget the blood of innocent Ethiopians. I marvel how the many former Derg members are raising their ugly heads on these forums. Take it easy butchers, you will not have any part in the future Ethiopia you might as well be prepared to accept the wave of the future: democracy, and change not military dictatorship.
How can anyone advocate not just Buke or feriw Mengistu to return to power but the runaway bands of former Mengistu’s officials such as Negede Gobeze,Dawit Welde Giorgis,Goshu Welde.The last two men ,just like their master, run out of Ethiopia when they realize Mengistu was about to hit the bottom. Immediately after his arrival in the western capital the reneged Dawit published a book about the hunger in Ethiopia in which he was the head of the agency. Dawit just like his master is a survivalist; for no other reason he wrought that book but to book to supplement his dwindling income. I wish the new generation of my countrymen to start from scratch by putting to office men only WHO ARE WOTHY TO BE RECKONED AS MORALLY UPRIGHT.
LET THERE BE AN END TO THE BANDAS,HODAMS AND CROOKEDS,WHO LOVE THEIR BELLY MORE THAN COUNTRY OR CARE FOR THE FUTURE.
You are just as nonsense as woyane and Shabya. Of course you are tigre
I born and grew up during mengisu era. But I never knew many ethiopians love him so much. For sure no one loves meles other than “kindibamu” I DONT EVEN THINK HIS WIFE, the queen of corruption LOVES HIM.What ever happened these are two ethiopian histories. One unlucky great ethiopian and one lucky silly bitch ethiopian.
I think Mengistu is dreaming coming to power again because there are so many of his party members have obtained high posts in the woyane regiom. Also Woyane and mengistu have the same characterstic to come together rather than woyane to join the opposition.
RE: QeQa. What good is salt if it loses it’t taste. I glanced at your rebutal defending Mengistu’s fleeing to Zimbabwe to save his life. What about the 80,000 soldiers who were in the front line of the war.Are the soldiers life less precious and less valueble than the commander in chief. Mengistu like any soldier is under oath to defending his countryman in peace and war; therefore your argument don’t have any merit.
I think mengstu will moves to south sudan i am happy because i will go from the border gambela to abeye
good point no. 52. i was happy and confused at the same time when i read this news.isnt south sudan pro-usa and pro-west,and wouldnt the americans protest?we read here that the woyanes are wetting their pants.the only chance mengistu can rehabilitate himself is as one said above by giving ethiopia back to us in addition to confessions about killed leaders,cia relations and djibouti.good luck menge and take care.
For me both Mengistu and Meles are the same.Both are dictatores,selfish and killers.
They say that Ethiopia and Japan started to look up to the western civilization. Unfortunately, Ethiopian have excelled on the gossip and back stabbing front. Werea yelew fre. keweregna yawtagn
#75.Anonymous,
Don’t put words in to my mouth and start shooting at the same words which you created yourself. I simply stated Mengistu’s flight to Zimbabwe as a matter a fact with out attaching to it anything positive or negative values for or against.
“Are the soldiers life less precious and less valueble than the commander in chief.” you asked
Please ask this interesting question not from me but from a random sample of 1000 commanders and 1000 foot soldiers and get back to us when you have found out conclusive responses to your inquiry.
May be they will tell you that the values of an educated and experienced lieutenant general who is an infantry commander under oath and the values of an ordinary none commissioned infantrymen working under oath are the same.
Some of those mentioned “80 000 soldiers” fighting in the front line of the war were thinking that it is even good that Mengistu fled the lost war rather than staying to the end in order to get himself killed as well as let the front liners butchered to the last man instead of throwing away their guns and mingling with the civilian population in a war that have already been lost.
Of course dedicated and determined Nazi leader, Adolf Hitler fought to the bitter end until he committed suicide and let his soldiers butchered and the rest captured and tried instead of negotiating surrender.
For me it is all the same but I think that you want Mengistu DEAD and burried deep under ground but absolutely he wouldn’t agree with you.
Mengistu may thinks that it is absolutely too much and horrendous genocide what has been done by the tyrannical Wayane killers for the last 20 years and wishes that the tplf leader taken to the International Criminal Court for crimes (ICC) against humanity.
RE : Que Qua
I was not put words in my mouth , I just simply brought you argument in light of what you said.My impression is that you don’t want Mengistu ” dead” or” captured”.My analysis is if you are a soldier under oath you have to protect your country in time of peace or war to protect your country by any means including giving your life.Everyone knows when they join the Army ,when they wear the badge it is for protecting their country against aggression. The pemises you mention that I want Mengistu to die is incorrect.I was just saying Mengistu should have died in dignity rather than living “half dead”.I want Mengistu not surrender but die like Aste Tewdros as a “hero”. There are many mis conception that most of us have about Mengistu.Pople should read Mingistu’s interview by Genet Anbese ‘it shows clearly that Mingistu is decitful ,dishonest and mostly unremoersefaul on what he did’ I can give you one example.Mengistu killed General Amdom by accusing him that he was colabrating with Eritrean rebels while trying to make a peace deal which at that time the rebels so weak that they were ready to make a concession to become as Federation with Ethiopia.Aman Amdom believes that he is Ethiopian ‘fought for Ethiopia’and died for Ethiopia. He was nick named “KODA TERASU ” after a fight in Somalia even he was awarded by King Haile Selassie so how could somone who fought for his country killed as a traitor. Mengistu made a polotical mistake that is unrepairable, and those are one of many reasons Ethiopia got disintegrated,the present regime also is responsible for Ethiopian disintegration, as I said to you before what good a salt if it doesn’t give a taste .Mengistu was not a skilled Commander in Chief nor a wise polotician, Ethiopia has paid dearly because of his mistakes which he willnever admit.Readers please be fair and objective .Finally this new government policy is more lethal than the prvios one.
The exchange of remarks between Qe Qa and Annonymous #75, #81, etc. is quite interesting. However, I suggest that a main point is being missed. This is the fundamental question as to what the Ethiopian people should do when they are faced by oppressive and inhuman leaders such as Murderers Mengistu and Melles.
The current overwhelming stance, at least on the part of the diaspora intellectuals and politcial activists, appears to be that Ethiopians should be focussed exclusively on the continuing injustice perpetrated by Melles & Co. and that Mengistu’s horrific crimes should be left to history. Therefore, Mengistu is continuing his life of luxury in Zimbabwe and insulting the intelligence of the Ethiopian people by claiming that he didn’t even harm a fly during his many years of misrulue.
The question that all Ethiopians should ask themselves is whether a leader such as Mengistu should get away with all the crimes against humanity that he has committed in Ethiopia. If the answer is in the positive, then the question arises as to why the current oppressive dictator, Melles, should be brought to justice. In this case, there is an obvious inconsistency.
In order to be consistent in our demand for justice, it is absolutely essential to apply it to all, especially Murderers Mengistu and Melles as well as their criminal collaborators. This principle should apply to any current and future leaders that are guilty of crimes against humanity.
Therefore, Ethiopians and friends of Ethiopians throughout the world should strive hard and in a sustainable manner to bring both criminals i.e. Mengistu and Melles to the International Criminal Court.
They probably thought he is one of them, Iam sure it is a welcome home jesture!
RE #82 Well said, you hit it right on the nail as Americans say” you do the crime you do the time”as much as I said about Mengistu I woul also to point out that Melese’s direction is in dismantling our identity, culture as well as religion as you might have heard from different media ,medivial autocratic government of Saudi Arabia is asking the regime in Ethiopia to expedite visa from 50 a week to 500 a week because they need 25,000 Ethiopian “house maids” what a shame.First was adaption free for all, there was a 65 old man who adapted from Ethiopia and molested the 12 and 13 years old child,then we heard this regime claimed 99.6 % election victory,we won the war over Eritrea and the victory was sabotaged by Melese after 70,000 people loss of life and lately he assigened 7 Generals from the same ethnic. The makers and the shakers are Eritreans whether it is Melese, Bereket or Samori, they are using Tigray as a covering up.Melese’s agenda is more lethal and dangerous than of Mengistu’s.
#82.Belhennet,
I have no objection to your suggestions as a matter of priciple but we need to absolutely make a choice and prioritize actions given that resources are scarce as well as limited. We cannot also bit more than what we can swallow at a time. The urgent demand of the current time is to get ride of the minority tyrannical wayane dictatorship enslaving, dictating, retailing Ethiopian fertile lands and Ethiopian youth to slavery while Ethiopians have been dying for the last 20 long years.
Come back to ex-tyrant Mengistu after you have got rid of the active and ever so present Wayane tyranny endlessly sucking the entire human and material resource. Otherwise, the Mengistu issue is only sheer attention diversion from the tyranny of the tplf. There is great difference in being called an ex-tyrant or the current tyrant. So please concentrate on the current tyrant. Mengistu have already been condemned in absentia and we will keep an eye on him. Just get the tplf out of Menelik’s palace and democratize Ethiopia for Ethiopians as a whole. That needs to be the priority, otherwise we are only wasting time and flogging an out of sight and out of power dead long dead horse.
Thank you, Annonymous #84 and Debtera Asaminew #85 for your remarks and suggestions.
Both of you are recommending that we should merely focus on TPLF to the exclusion of Murderer Mengistu, at least at this stage. However, your idea misses out on three points of fundamental importance:
(1) That the Ethiopian people are fully capable of waging a relentless struggle against the current oppressive TPLF led regime while, at the same time, launching an effective movement to bring Mengistu to justice;
(2) That your suggestion of ignoring the case of one criminal (Mengistu) while prosecuting that of another similar criminal (Melles) is totally contrary to legal principles and international law. How could you justify, on the basis of principles of justice and morality the abandonment, even momentarily, of the horrific crimes committed by Mengistu while you are persuing the case of our current criminal, Melles? It’s like prosecuting one thief and letting the other one go free!!!
(3) That you don’t seem to remember the fact that the cause of the current oppression in Ethiopia was Mengistu himself. If it were not for Mengistu’s disastrous leadership and the huge crimes he committed in Ethiopia, Woyane couldn’t have succeeded in the fight against the Dergue. Melles himeself had declared some 18 years or so ago that they couldn’t have reached Addis if the Amhara people had not helped them on the way. In Amharic, he had stated over the radio: “YeAmaraw hizb enkoko belo bayadersen, Addis Ababa andersemm nebber”. The Amara and other Ethiopian people helped the Woyanes simply because of the deep hatred they had for the criminal Dergue and its master, Mengistu. Unfortunately, the enemy of an enemy was considered a friend!!!
In view of the above, I suggest, again, that for the sake of justice, the Ethiopian people should strive to bring both criminals: Mengistu and Melles to justice. For pragmatic purposes, the cases should be treated separately but concurrently.
It’s hoped that people like Elias establish movements or strengthen existing ones if any to call on the international community including the ICC, the UN Human Rights Commission, certain influential governments, civic organizations, etc. to bring the two culprits to justice. Ethiopian lawyers/legal experts would, I hope, rise to this important occasion thereby showing current and future tyrants that they would not escape justice.
RE #86 Bilhinet I think we are having a little misunderstanding Mengistu should have been court marshaled for treason by Ethiopian people. I am angry for leting the Army and fled to Zimbabwe.Mengistu should have lived as a soldiers and died as a soldier instead of talking fairy tales to Ethiopan people.
Dear Anonymous #87,
Wishes for what Mengistu should have done are good but of very little value at this stage. What’s absolutely essential in terms of justice and the dignity of the Ethiopian people is to bring the criminal Mengistu where he would have his “day in court” in an appropriate manner, namely, the International Criminal Court in the Hague. Such a step will be historic in nature and send a clarion message to current and all possible future (God forbid!) dictators in Ethiopia that they will not escape justice if they apply their power with impunity.
If we have any respect for the Ethiopian people, Mengistu and Melles should be brought to justice for the crimes they have committed so viciously.
For me both of them are the same the difference is Mengstu regime is an official killer by telling all what he did through media & the Melese regime is a secrete killer for Ethiopian. It will be better to tail the reality that both of them are the killers.
Unless Mr Melese doesn’t improve his governance one day there will be violence like northern African countries. It is time to improve his leadership & bring equity for all Ethiopian without discrimination one ethnicity with other & also for him & his family. It is not good for the coming future. I don’t understand what they are talking about on their media about their physical construction that their meaningless road & building because it will demolished one day all unless they tried to construct the mentality of Ethiopians as Ethiopia is belonging to them without discrimination equally. As far As I see there is a hidden hate between Ethiopian because of the regime wrong ideology. Let him work on to improve the mentality of people to bring love with each other by treating equally for better future.
We have to learn from passed Somalia & from the presence of Libya. People benefited by the regime fight with the people don’t, the result is the distraction of all build up infrastructures.
RE 89 Real Ethiopian Mengistu has said he never even killed a fly, he denied killing the King or the 60 Ministers and Generals eventhough he killed them.Mengistu lies to his teeth. I don’t know what you are talking about.
Real Ethiopian,
“…Unless Mr Melese doesn’t improve his governance one day there will be violence like northern African countries…” you wrote
You still think that Meles may change his habits and convert himself from a minority and over privileged monopoly ruler by chosen tyranny only because you wish so and hoping that ONLY alone wishes will do the task of change for the best. Worse yet, you seem to be afraid of changes that may include sacrifices.
Keep waiting for the usual manna to drop from the heavens with out an iota of sacrifices and nominal efforts.
Dependency, sweet dependency and living on the shameful international donations and miserable handouts are more comfortable than struggling for your rights and achieving respectable self sufficiency and human dignity in practice.
Bring back MENGE. I am sick and tired of these cockroaches.
Menge! I heard a lot from history, brothers and sisters. Time is moving fast, can u please drop a certain words to the generation? Lets listen your words! Not fair to listen from one party and give our opinion as our generation is more rational! Just give us your say!
Please tell all the truth including the death of Bahlu Girma and why? You are the only one left now next to Tesfye to tell the hidden! Please we need the truth to judge.
Why do you want to go holding the truth! Don’t judge by your self we need ‘Endewerede’.So let us know ‘Satchemer Satkenes’! Ferdun le tewledu tewew!
Egzer Yihen Ayto yiker endehone!
Neseha Yohonehal Yemtawkewn Hulu Adera! Bezan Gizem hone Ahun Beseltan Lay Bezu Yetedebeku Ewnetawoch Aluna!!
Meles is far better than the komches……no place in the palace for the sobbering amharans……wushanna amarah bete mengist yinejisalu