By Jawar Siraj Mohammed
A Rejoinder to Messay Kebede’s Response
Although this debate began because Professor Messay claimed the ideology of self determination is to be blamed for OLF’s lack of success in the past two decades, he has not shown any evidence to back up his assertion. He has not provided us with a single case where the “right” ideology resulted in success and “bad” ideology led to the failure of insurgency, nor does he explain how exactly advocating for the right to self determination weakened the OLF. Even though I have shown cases where organizations advocating similar ideology produced different results, he refuses to accept that organizational efficiency is primarily a result of strategy and committed leadership. Instead his two articles focused on pointing out the deficiency of self determination as an ideology and he seems to be attempting to drag me into this ideological debate. I refused to engage in such a debate because my article which he reacted to took no side on the ongoing ideological debate. I concluded that ideology was not among the major factors that hindered the organization’s performance.
Reading through Professor Messay’s two essays I have come to realize that the various points he discussed arise from his distaste for “ethnic politics” in general and for the OLF in particular. I believe it is unhelpful to assess organizational performance based on our ideological preferences as doing so would take away our objectivity. Failure or success of an organization should be evaluated based on stated objectives not using what the analyst thinks is a right objective. In my views it is this lack of objectivity that leads many individuals and groups to underestimate, misunderstand and mishandle nationalist movements. In this essay I would like to briefly discuss this issue.
Underestimating Nationalism: OLF’s Ideology, Success beyond Expectation or Bankruptcy?
I challenge Professor Messay’s repeated declaration that OLF’s ideology is bankrupt. I think such an assumption is quite far from reality. Assuming that the ideology he is referring to is the “nationalist agenda”, neither me nor the professor would have been interested in debating this issue had Oromo nationalism not been the most powerful political mobilizing force that is likely to determine the future of the Ethiopian state. Had the OLF ideology failed, there would not exist a land known as Oromia in country where once it was shameful to identify yourself as an Oromo. Had this ideology bankrupted, some 20 million children would not be studying in Afan Oromo, in a place where it was taboo and a sign of backwardness to speak this language.
It’s my understanding that a political ideology is said to be bankrupted when it fails to attract supporters. Yet when we look at OLF’s “nationalist agenda”, it enjoys an incredible level of support across all sectors of the Oromo people despite the very poor performance of the organization. In fact, one can rightly argue that OLF’s biggest accomplishment(“s”) since its inception is artfully articulating and developing Oromo nationalism. The evidence for this is the fact that, although they differ on ways and means of achieving the goal, all Oromo political forces share a unanimous rejection and determination to fight cultural domination, political repression, social alienation and economic exploitation. That is why Oromo nationalists remain the number one threat to the current regime for the last two decades and as a result they make up over 95% of political prisoners as testified by several Ethiopians. This fact will continue to be the case as long as identity based injustice remains the rule of the game.
Hence, unless one kid himself/herself for the sake of the argument, OLF’s ideology has been a success beyond expectation. What led to success of this ideology is clear, it is incredible level of cultural, economic and social repressions by successive tyrants that backfired and broadened alienation of the Oromo and strengthened the spreading of nationalism.
Anyone interested in making practical influence on Ethiopian politics knows that it has long become impossible either to maintain or change the status quo without taking this force into consideration. That is why forces who oppose the demands of Oromo nationalism, both the ruling party and opposition groups, continue to make gradual concession to soften the nationalist position and win their alliances. Cornered with ever increasing uprising, the regime has been instituting reforms such as increasing local autonomy in Oromia and allowing expansion of Afaan Oromo both in academia and in the media. It is to be remembered that hundreds of students were killed in the last decade for these demands to be met. On the other side, opposition groups who in 2005 used the excuse of “no ethnic politics” either to ignore the issue or rally against the gains of the Oromo movement, now have made a U-turn by embracing the reality as it is shown with their swift acceptance of Afaan Oromo as a national language.Remembering that a few years back, some of those individuals organized a rally in Washington DC opposing the extension of time for Afaan Oromo on the VOA, their current move is an encouraging step that should be embraced by Oromo nationalists.
I encourage people to take off their vale of fear for the rising tide of Oromo and acknowledge the many positive contribution this movement had brought for Ethiopians as a whole. Its the awakening of the giant that forced successive regimes to remove state sponsored cultural and linguistic genocidal policy against the South. Without the awakening of the giant, oppressed minorities of the South would still be called “bariya” , “Shanqilla”, “Walamo” and so on by the state media who degrades them while relying on their wealth for financing.
When we speak of Oromo nationalism and its demands, the ‘self-mutilation’ the Professor wants to discuss also has to be analyzed historically. The Oromo are only a demographic majority but has always been a political and social minority. Just 35 years ago a majority of “Ethiopians” never acknowledged that a people called the “Oromo” lived in the greater part of Ethiopia, and that it constitutes of humans with certain dignities and inalienable rights. Thanks to the Oromo nationalists and the Ethiopian student movement, and as well as the sacrifices made by the Left, now the “Gimatam Galla” is accepted as a dignified “Oromo”. There are still remnants of the old, including the Woyane security, who push for an anti-Oromo stand-up comedy in Finfine, but their days are closing. Now, in the third millennia, after notable achievements by the struggle, if Ethiopians demand that Oromo nationalists move to the center and take leadership of democratizing and strengthening unity of the country, that is an understandable quest. But this demand for ‘taking the leadership’ will not echo as genuine, if one purports to demean and destroy Oromo nationalism which brought the movement to the respected position it finds itself now. Oromo nationalist will heed the call for “move to the center” if and only if that ‘call’ is supported by empathy and understanding the sacrifices they made up to this point. Otherwise it sounds like an “Arada”call that lacks genuinety.
That is also why Professor Messays’ call for unity while accusing me of an Amhara hater, without any evidence whatsoever, is a wrong approach. In the typical paternalistic fashion of elites of the dominant culture, he advises me saying “what keeps you in chains is the diatribe against Amhara, Abyssinians and the correlated discourse on the Ethiopian colonization of the Oromo.” Since the Professor is willing to sacrifice facts and along the way his honor, to defend his own ‘ideology’, he seems to have been forced to misrepresent me, while I am alive. I have no diatribe against the Amhara, nor a hang-up on a colonial theory, these are just mind creations of the Professor to appear as the ultimate defender of Ethiopia’s unity. One thing I want to say, however is that, Ethiopia is an unfinished project. All of us have a role in its final shape. But for this to happen the minimum code of conduct is to listen to each other, to feel each other’s pain, and to represent the facts as they are without misrepresenting them. The tactics and machinations which foiled the Ethiopian Student Movement and all the political movements that came in its wake are outmoded and tested by our joint failure to advance mutual understanding. We should try a new way, a new beginning.
Misunderstanding Sources of Nationalism: Elite Manipulation or Manifestation of Grievances?
Highly dismissive of the real cause of nationalism – which is identity based injustice – Professor Messay repetitively accuses “ethnic” elites for manipulating their people. Speaking of Oromo nationalism he asserts that “… what Jawar presents as a fact is not yet a fact; it is an elitist manipulation that uses past mistreatment to justify partition.” What I do not understand is how about the state backed, institutionalized and often violent “counter manipulation” orchestrated by those who oppose these “ethnic” elites? Wasn’t the entire field of academia and state institution exclusively controlled by the “unity or death” group for most part of the 20th century? Has the professor ever thought why a bunch of young college kids were able to convert peasant grievance into nationalism fueled revolutionary force and topple the guys with the “right” idea and the finest army? Why did “ethnic” movements outlive class struggle? It is too easy to dismiss nationalism as “elite manipulation” but we know that such approach has not helped in the past forty years. What those who advocate “unity-at-all-cost” fail to understand are that their violent, disrespectful and often chauvinistic approach to quell ethnic discontent helps fuel nationalism rather than defuse it.
I argued that, it’s not some abstract ideological aspiration that gave birth to ethnic based rebellion, but rather it was identity based political repression, economic exploitation and cultural subjugation. Thus, Eritreans, Tigreans, Oromos and others supported their perspective liberation front’s not because their elites were so effective in making the peasants study Stalin’s work, but because the people were yearning for an end to repression by any means necessary.
It’s this misunderstanding of the source of nationalism which leads the professor to give too much credit to Stalin on the raise of nationalism. For instance he says “According to the Stalinist vision, the liberation of the ethnic group has precedence over the consideration of unity with other groups” I am not a student of Stalin, but I never came across any research that puts Stalin as a good friend of nationalists. On the contrary, Stalin is well known for persecuting his own “Georgian” nationalists, because he ardently believed that the class solidarity of the workers takes precedence over the nationalist interest of the bourgeoisie. As an old student of Stalin, how could the Professor miss this fact? When fact and logic are thrown out the window, it seems there is no turning back but misrepresenting others is also acceptable because it serves a ‘higher purpose’ that of ‘maintaining unity at all costs’. But when trust is sacrificed to win, we will make ourselves the second Meles Zenawi of a different brand.
In connection to this, another issue which the professor keeps bringing up, but fails to substantiate with evidence, is the correlation between leftist ideology, nationalism, secessionism and armed struggle. He asserts that leftist ideology is responsible for growth of “ethnic” nationalism, secessionist demand, and armed struggle. This theoretical argument could have been persuasive four decades ago when the debate was based on assumptions, but now all those assumptions and theories have been tested and we have the benefit seeing real case studies that have made constructing imagined theories unnecessary. The world has been full of secessionist movements that do not advocate Leninist politics. There have been leftist movements who are not secessionist. There have been several secessionist struggles that are not armed. Here are some of the examples that debunk the said correlation.
* The Tibetan movement is a secessionist one but it is neither Leninist nor armed, the same is true for Quebecois secessionist movement in Canada.
* The Farc in Columbia is a leftist armed group but it is not secessionist, the same is true for the Moist in Nepal
* The BJP in India is an ultra-right wing Hindu nationalist movement which is neither armed nor leftist.
* Far left movements have taken power in several Latin American countries without armed struggle.
* At home front, EDU was a feudal party engaged in armed struggle opposing socialism, while EPRP was a leftist armed movement but it was not “ethnic” nationalist.
Many more of such cases can be listed. Therefore the reality is that movements, be it secessionists or those who want to reform an existing state, pick up guns when they think that all other venues and means of advancing their cause are no longer on the table or they avoid armed struggle when they do not see comparative strategic advantage in violent uprising. Hence, Professor Messay is making a very wild conclusion.
The issue of armed struggle leading to subordination has not been the rule as well. The Zimbabweans and South Africans were trained by Ethiopia, but never made them Ethiopia’s satellite. The EPLF was assisted by the West, but it never succumbed to their interest. Maoist China was assisted by Stalin’s Soviet Union, but it didn’t lead to China’s subordination as well. Hence Professor Messay’s argument that getting assistance from foreigners during the armed struggle will necessarily lead to subordination is not supported by life and experience. It’s worth noting here that my criticism of OLF’s relation with Eritrea is based on the nature of the relationship whereby there is neither strategic benefit due to distance from the battlefront, nor has there been tangible financial and logistical support. Worse, being in Eritrea, the leadership insulated itself from pressure and also became a hostage that cannot make independent strategic and institutional decisions.
Mishandling Nationalism: Redress or Repress Grievance
Nationalism is like boiling water, the pot is the repressive system, the heat is repression and grievance is its steam. The solution to such a problem depends at what stage the movement is or how hot the pot is. At an early stage, for instance, you defuse the tension by reducing the heat so you can prevent stream formation. If you miss the first stage and steam has formed, then you must use a combination of strategies which might include reducing the heat, adding cold water and loosening the cover. If it passes that stage, you have no control over the situation as either the pot will explode or the cover could be blown off.
Unfortunately, those who oppose nationalism often increase the pressure instead of systematically defusing such tension. At every stage they increase the heat by stepping repression which helps spreading resentment and galvanizing the oppressed. This often happens because of the gross underestimation of the potential force of grievance. By the time rulers realize their backers the real nature of the problem, they are no longer in the position to influence the outcome.
For instance so much resource and sacrifice was paid to keep Eritrea as part of Ethiopia but the effort was fruitless. Every attempt to crush the movement backfired, strengthening the rebels and further radicalizing their determination. To defuse the Eritrean nationalism and maintain the integrity of the country, Mengistu Hailemariam and his “Abiyotawi Ethiopia or Death” supporters could have negotiated for “Federation”, well before the political will for such consideration became null. And such an outcome wouldn’t have become considered a ‘defeat’ as the Professor suggested. It would have been a win-win situation. In fact, in 1981 EPLF had made the proposal for such negotiation, but was not accepted by the Dergue because it was believed EPLF was initiating a “referendum” talk because it was weakened militarily. The Professor should have learnt from his own experience from the Dergue years, that ‘politics is the art of compromise’ and not a place to shine with high sounding slogans.
The Way A Head
One might dislike the OLF or another might wish that Oromo nationalism never came to surface. These are good wishes given we add that the repressive systems that gave birth to the movement should have never existed at the first place. Now we have to deal with the reality. Oromo nationalism is a reality and we better come to terms with it and develop a strategy so that it can be channeled towards the common good. I believe that Oromo nationalism, properly understood, effectively organized and led by committed and visionary leadership, could be the greatest force, in cooperation with other movements, that can uplift the country and the wider region from the never ending crisis.
Towards this I propose that opponents and proponents of the movement understand the situation for what it is: Oromo Nationalism is borne out of identity-based injustice by successive regimes that culturally subjugated and ridiculed the Oromo reducing them to subhuman condition on their own land. It’s also a manifestation of grievance from economic marginalization of these people by forces who exploit their resources. Thus, opponents of this movement should understand that such social dynamics cannot fade away under repression or by condescending slogans such as extremism, tribalism or cover up of historical injustice. If those Ethiopians who genuinely lose their sleep over the balkanization of their country, love it earnestly and wish for a better future, they must embrace reality and work towards bringing a democratic, fair and integrated country. In short a justice based on fairness. Oromo nationalists should also know that the objective of the movement is not to “defeat” the oppressor, but to uplift our people. As such we need to overcome our bitterness that was caused by fresh scars of a century long process of dehumanization. As Paulo Freire nicely put it “the great humanistic and historical task of the oppressed is to liberate themselves and their oppressors as well”. It is not enough to blame others for all the wrongs and expect difference; we must take leadership to bring about mutual understanding. I hope to say more on this in my upcoming essays.
(The writer can be reached at [email protected])
29 thoughts on “Misunderstanding nationalism in Ethiopia”
After reading this article, one is just left speechless and baffled by the writer’s knowledge of Ethiopia’s history, or lack there of. First of all there has never been a time in Ethiopia’s history where it was a shame to be Oromo. Second of all there is no land called Oromia in Ethiopian (maybe a state). These are just inaccuracies in the first few paragraphs. Ethnic politics are useless, ineffective, and have no place in the world today. It is energy wasted that brings no results. If we are so against ethnic politics with the current regime, why attempt to do the same. Does it really matter if the is comprised of Oromos, Tigres, Gurages, or Amharas???? NO it does not what matters is having qualified Ethiopians in power that have Ethiopia’s best interest at heart not their own ethnic agenda. Until that happens Ethiopia will be no different than Somalia, Rwanda, Sudan, or any other insignificant African country. Let’s keep Ethiopia strong and moving forward as one nation of Ethiopians. Ethiopia has always been ahead of most of Africa, so let us not regress back hundreds of years with ethnic politics.
Mr. Jawar’s piece is a masterpiece! I mean that from the bottom of my heart. Line by line, paragraph by paragraph, he states the reason why we are unable to form unity for as long as we persist to hold tightly onto our hubris. The old Amhara Neftegnas have truly damaged the soul of Ethiopia, and now their children, like Messay, are making it impossible for any sincere dialogue or truce to materialize. Why doesn’t Messay go out and meet the various people of the south and see for himself their mutilated hearts?
He will be surprised to find the debris in the hearts of men and women, debris left by his ancestors.
Thanks.
Hellow My Fellow country Folk and Friends.
My big Questions about nationalism, Oromos, etc. etc. Who decides for the Oromos? The people Orom are not asked about their determination. No organization on this poor Earth can decide for the Oromos.The Oromos and the othe r Ethiopians have the right to decide about their destiny. NO liberation or non liberation organizations.
Ethiopia prevails.
“The great humanistic and historical task of the oppressed is to liberate themselves and their oppressors as well”.
While this is a great saying, I want to point that it is not particularly about the oppressed and the oppressor but it has been about the blind leading another blind. In order to get out of this hollow pit that is not advancing the region’s objectives, massive education of the people as a whole is necessary without pointing fingers. I believe it has started and we need to catch up with the speed.
Thanks for sharing your view that I feel sounds refreshing.
Great response, Mr. Jawar.
Forget Oromo’s Nationalism!
Discussing on, or arguing about, a dead issue and at that an exclusive one – the Oromo nationalism – never brings to life the Oromo movement after it has been dead and berried unceremoniously in an unmarked grave somewhere in the southern Ethiopian desert.
Professor Messay will not be accountable for the untimely death of this poorly planned Muslim movement – the Oromo nationalism, and it has never been, in the first place, skillfully executed in Oromia where the majority of Muslims live because its political leaders such as Jawan Siraj Mohammed and his likes abroad and inside Ethiopia lack skills and the art of leading an ordinary, unsophisticated, and an overlooked organization – the Oromo nationalism.
Mr. Mohammed asserts “…neither me nor the Professor would have been interested in debating this issue had Oromo nationalism not been the most powerful mobilizing force that is likely to determine the future of the Ethiopian state.”
Far from being powerful and a mobilizing force, the Oromo Islamic movement has been the most dormant and lifeless entity that no one can think about any more except the separatist Muslim, Mr. Mohammed, who may have something to benefit by disintegrating the Oromo Muslims from the rest of the other Ethiopian Christians and Ethiopian Arab Muslims, and such a dead movement will not determine the future of Ethiopia.
To avoid shame and inferiority, the name Oromo was invented according to Mr. Mohammed’s understanding of the term Oromo because the original name Galla, Mr. Mohammed thinks, has been a shameful identity and the purpose of the creation of the Oromo movement is simply to remove the stigma, the name Galla, and to have no connection with the original name Galla.
It may be easy to change a name or an identity but one never changes the inherited inferiority of the Oromo Arab Muslims: money cannot change it; guerrilla warfare cannot change it; belief in Islam cannot change it, and fame cannot change it; therefore, Mr. Mohammed is just crying in the wilderness to give a new name, a new spirit, and a new ideology to the Galla or Oromo movement by blindly supporting the ill-fated Oromo nationalism.
Those 20 million Muslim children who are learning their lessons in Afan Oromo instead of in the national language – Amharic – are not going to change the backwardness or primitiveness of the Oromo nationalism and its Islamic faith as the millions of the Pakistani Muslim children who have been learning their Madrasses have never brought any change to their country by later joining the Jihadists, and the language of Oromia still remains as a taboo and as an afterbirth thing.
It is totally absurd and disingenuous to claim that all the Oromo people support the Oromo nationalism that has never produced any tangible results except denouncing the Amhara dominance and the Amhara culture, religion and language.
As a strong Muslim adherent, Mr. Mohammed is probably very sad deep inside by the total fiasco of the Oromo nationalism without reaching its goals – to demonize the Amhara noble culture, true faith, long history, and deep-rooted civilization.
Mr. Mohammed talks boldly about the success of the Oromo nationalism, but he has failed to produce any single evidence demonstrated by the Oromo organization except that the organization per se has been a big threat to the people of Oromia by burning their houses and kidnapping their sons and daughters and training them to be another big threat to their own family.
No one has purposely alienated the Oromo people even though the Oromo movement has tried to isolate them and use them as a means against the Amhara people; however, Mr. Mohammed asserts that the other opposition forces have met the demands of the Oromo nationalism and “continue to make gradual concession to soften the nationalist position and win their alliance.” This is totally absurd statement for no other opposition party has ever accepted the demands of the Oromo nationalism.
First of all, what are the Oromo demands? As far as any one knows the OLF demands are separation from the Amhara people, declaration of independence, reclaiming Addis Ababa as the capital city of Oromia with the name “Finfinne,” demoting the Amharic language, and driving out all the Amharas from any Oromia regions.
In reality, has any one of these demands ever been achieved by this diffident political organizers of the Oromo movement? Not a single one of them! And Oromia is still one of the Ethiopian provinces and its people are subjects of the Woyanne government.
Further, Mr. Mohammed talks about the many contributions of the Oromo people to Ethiopia but he cannot support such empty claims unless it is as an auxiliary one to the main contributions of the Amhara people to the Ethiopian nation.
When some of the Oromo Arab-Muslim organizers try to secede from Ethiopia, they incur the old name callings such as “baria,” “shanqilla,” “galla,” and “walamo,” and many other such degrading names. In fact, the Oromos have never been enslaved, but their aloofness from the rest of the other Ethiopian people renders them as the slaves of the Amhara people.
The Oromo movement is still in the backburner, never moved to the center, and no one knows it exists any more in the other Ethiopian organizations.
Mr. Mohammed, don’t mix up the Eritreans with the Oromos; the Eritreans have been colonized by different foreign powers, but Oromia has never been colonized, thanks to the Amhara people’s stamina and love of country; therefore, the Oromos are not qualified for self-determination, and they are incapable of governing themselves.
Some of the political movements of other countries Mr. Mohammed listed may have been legitimate ones, but the Oromo movement is a self-destructive one that involves the total destructions of the Ethiopian people.
Mr. Mohamed’s nationalism’s analogy of boiling water, pot, heat, and steam has nothing to do with the unsubstantiated grievances of the Oromo people.
How can boiling water represent nationalism, pot repressive system, heat repression, and grievance steam? Nationalism does not always originate from oppressed people only; some people, like the OLF organizers, prefer to be nationalists for their own selfish motives. In such cases, no boiling water, pat, and steam represent the OLF nationalism: their grievances and oppressions are not different from the other Ethiopians’ grievances and oppressions.
After profusely praising the OLF that has failed to bring to the Oromos freedom from the Amhara nation, Mr. Mohammed concludes his article, by saying: “Oromo Nationalism is borne out of identity-based injustice by successive regimes that culturally subjugated and ridiculed the Oromo reducing them to subhuman condition on their own land.”
First of all, no government has purposely ever mistreated the Oromo people until they have become subhuman since the Oromos and the Amharas have been under the Oromos and the Amharas rulers for many, many centuries. They both may have equally suffered and mistreated by their own rulers. To claim that the Oromos are the only Ethiopian people that have been victimized by various Ethiopian rulers disqualifies Mr. Mohammed’s grievances about the oppressions of his Oromo’s Arab-Muslim population.
This is an excellent article that every body should read, well written, to the point. There has to be discussion, there has to be exchange of idea. The elites purposely continue to manipulates the agenda so no logical discussion can take place so we won’t recognize our common denominator. There are many Ahmars that have died with OLF, and other freedom loving groups as well. It should also be noted even the northern have been fighting for autonomy from the central government, Gojjam but the northern elites have silenced them, so the land of Nile goes thirsty.
Thanks to OLF today Democracy is household word where monarchs and kings were the ion that Ethiopia prides itself, what OLF has done is that it has raised the consciousness of all Ethiopian people, without democracy there is no peace, without peace there is no Ethiopia. So Jawar we encourage you to continue the dialog, uplift not only Oromos but all Ethiopians for Ethiopia is our land our home.
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Good article but as an Ethiopian hard for me to swallow all the stuff. I hope I am right in believing that the Oromo elite like the rest of Ethiopian elites, does fail to understand the real issue. The real issue here is there is no issue other that the fact that you all elites have an ego issue and most involved elites do seem to be well educated people who failed to make money or name in their fields. It really is a curse that may continue to the future generations.
I have some appreciations for Mohamed’s views; more than its absurdity it has some values, from his point of view, to mislead but may be very few narrow minds. At one point he even says, “…we will make ourselves the second Meles Zenawi of a diffent brand”. I don’t think he knows for sure who and for what purpose the Ethiopian people are fighting against.
I read a lot of articles written by so-called Ethiopian intellectuals. To my utter astonishment many of these articles lack coherence but fortunately Jewar is a breath of fresh air in that regard. He is articulate and well reasoned and yet better he supports his arguments with evidence but the same can’t be said about Professor Mesay. I would have enjoyed this debate better if Jewar had met his match but unfortunately the good professor substitutes demagoguery for well thought of argument.
Mr. Gettu
You belief system is the very reason why we need strong ethnic and religious organizations in Ethiopia. I am afraid there are many Ethiopians who have similar thoughts as you do about other non-Amhara Ethiopians and Mr. Jawar is making his case that we need strong organizations to challenge that. You have insulted the Oromos, the Muslims and the rest of the minorities in Ethiopia in one swoop and that is the mindset that almost everyone is up against right now. In a vain attempt, Mr. Messay tried to hair split and dance around the issues that you have expressed clearly and unambiguously.
But there is no other way to put the fire of extreme hatred people like you hold towards other non-Amharas except to organize and fight all the way through.
Although you and your mentor Mr. Messay would like to tell us otherwise, it is a matter of public record that the Oromos and other ethnic minorities in Ethiopia have gained tremendously since the overthrow of the Haile Selassie regime. The Oromos and other nationalities in Ethiopia have gained the respect of their heritage and history and now have the right to self-administer their regions using their own language. In spite of Mr. Messay’s attempt to dismiss the struggle and achievement of the Oromos and other minorities as a token gift from the TPLF, the fact remains unchallenged that the OLF spearheaded this movement from the beginning although the outcome took a decidedly different turn. Even though all the legal Oromo parties working in and outside of the government are fighting over each other as the true representatives of the Oromo people, no one in his right mind disputes the achievements of the Oromo people so far is the result of the work headed by the OLF.
Mr. Gettu, the Ethiopia that you are dreaming about is just that, a dream. I wish I could say sweet dream but you are dreaming about splintering the nation into many entities. I wish I could dismiss your lengthy writing as none sense from the distant past, but I am afraid you are not alone in you wishful thinking. The Ethiopia you are longing for is gone forever; the Ethiopia that was known as Christian island populated by Amharas is just a footnote in the history books. Very few people like you might look on the rear view mirror and feel nostalgic about the days of the feudal lords, but the vast majority of the Ethiopian people have already said good-riddance to that era. If you really want to contribute to the struggle of the nation you claim to love dearly, I suggest that you shed you chauvinistic garb and try to treat and respect everyone equally.
Mr. Jawar Siraj Mohammed, don’t think that every secessionist element succeeds. Let me give you the most current example of the defeat of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam(LTTE). You can check out this http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1899160,00.html
Ato asheber necho,
For your information and understanding of genuine history, there are no such things as “non-Amhara Ethiopians.” All Ethiopians are Amharas who have lived for centuries under their own system of governance – the Amharas’ leadership and have worshiped God in that glorious Church, the Amhara Church, spoken the Amharic language, and tilled, protected and enjoyed the same land, and buried in the same soil until the enemies – the dissenters, like you and your Muslim friend, Jawar Siraj Mohammed, saw their Muslim number increasing faster than the number of the Ethiopian Christians finally realized the time has come for them to break the unity of Ethiopia, dismantle the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church that has been the symbol of peace, unity, and pride of all the Ethiopian people in time of peace and war.
You want to fight, then let us fight, but remember as we fight we are prolonging the evil leadership of Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi) instead of strengthening the unity of the Ethiopian Christian dome and accepting the supremacy of the Amharas.
From your writing, it is clear the Woyanne government has been a blessing to the Oromo Arab Muslims but a curse to the indigenous Ethiopian Christians, and that is why a large majority of the Ethiopian Arab Muslims voted for Meles Seitanawi in the 2005 Election Day, and no doubt in anyone’s mind that they are ready to vote for him during this coming election, because the Ethiopian Arab Muslims, especially the Oromos abhor the Amharas without any substantial reason.
In fact, you have vividly told us in your comment that you and the other Muslims are the only beneficiaries of the existing Woyanne oppressive regime when you emphatically stated: “…it is a matter of public record that the Oromos and other ethnic minorities in Ethiopia have gained tremendously since the overthrow of Haile Selassie regime.”
Yes, Meles Seitanawi fears and hates the Amharas and wants the Ethiopian Arab Muslims to rise up against this mighty and graceful race – the Amhara tribe.
You wrote: “The Oromos and other nationalities in Ethiopia have gained the respect of their heritage and history and now have the right to self-administer their regions using their own language.”
By the way, who gave the Oromos the right to self-administration? Isn’t it Meles Seitanawi who gave the Oromo this right so that he could get the votes of over 30 million Ethiopian Arab Muslims? It is not the Oromo movement that gave the Oromos the right to self-determination, and since you have gained all these rights, thanks to Meles Seitanawi, you are then part of, and loyal to, the Woyanne regime, but on the surface you claim you are against the Meles regime to win favor from the Amharas.
You declare: “the Oromos…have gained the respect of their heritage and history….” Can you tell me what kind of history and heritage the Oromos have had aside the history and heritage of the Amhara people? Can you mention just one heritage and one piece of history achieved exclusively by the Oromos Arab Muslims?
You and your Oromo Arab Muslims still think Christianity in Ethiopia does not exist anymore; the only religion that exists in Ethiopia is Islam, and, you believe, that very soon the Caliphate will be established in Finfinne, the future capital city of Oromia, and the Amhara people will be gone forever, and they never come back. When you think such absurd thoughts, you are simply hallucinating: the Amhara Christian kingdom is still in power, and it has never lost power, and you and your Ethiopian Arab Muslims are subservient to this Christian Kingdom and have no right to establish your own government. Come May, 2010, go and cast your ballot for your friend, Meles Seitanawi so that he might declare Islam as a state religion, and that is what the Oromo Arab Muslims are heading to.
Ato Assta,
Your closed mindedness is scary. Most Amaras don’t talk like this. You are following the steps of tribalists TPLF. Did you say all Ethiopians are Amaras? Really? What of Tigres, gurages, oromos for that matter, are you saying the above tribes are Ethiopians because of Amara? Are you saying what makes Ethiopia is Ethiopia is Amara? You must be joking. Of course there is no denying they have ruled for 100 year and they did oppress other ethnic groups no denying although I don’t claim their oppression should lead to the break up of Ethiopia, which I totally disagree in that. However, I don’t like the blame game and in that case, I can now blame all this head ache we are facing now then I can say is due to Amara’s dominance. Shouldn’t this be fair of your bluffing how Amara did this and did that. Please also, becareful generalization of Ethiopia’s muslims as this and that, Arabs, etc. There are many Muslims who are proud of being Ethiopians but they don’t have to Amaras also. There are Muslims of Ethiopia from all ethnic tribes do you get it? Although I do have a feeling and which I disagree also that there are muslims are now being extremeists such as SOME Oromo Muslims who are following the Arab mentality to weaken Christianity in Ethiopia. They follow people like Professor Shamsaddin of Egypt who is calling for dismantling of Ethiopia? Now why does this Egyptian care? Of course great deal because of the Nile and spread Islam in Ethiopia. Some naive Oromo Muslims who are blindingly supporting this which is dangerous for Ethiopia. It is true Ethiopia has always been a Christian nation for centuries. Islam came to Ethiopia but not the other way around. So, indeed there are extremist muslims who are collobrating with Weyane and Middle East country to destroy Ethiopia and christianity and they should also thank Meles for this. However you have be careful including every Ethiopian muslim as outsiders ok or as if Amara is the only important entity. I thought you are fighting Meles because of pro ethnicity. If you have other agenda as those extremist OLFs then it is time also to disagree with extremist Amara like you. Ethiopia belongs to all ethnicity, language and religion and that is how it has to be.
Are you joking when you said what Oromos have contributed in Ethiopia? Who fought and died during Italy’s attempt to colonize Ethiopia? What about Balcha Aba Nefso, Bekele Weya, and many many more, what about my grandfather who died in 1945 by Italians? It is laughable to say Oromos didn’t sacrifice their lives to protect their country. It is true, if you wnat democratic country then it is not Amara in fact Oromos are the majority doesn’t it make sense it is high time Oromos lead the country. I have a feeling peace will come after Oromos took over because they have fair and balanced policy. They are known in history giving proper law, adapting children, etc.. learn from them. What does Amara do these days, prostituting that is what they are good at anyways, that is why they are good in diplomacy because they are good in manipulating things to get what they want. Amaras are the one who have been also degrading other ethnic groups such as Oromo is a fool, Gurage loves money etc,. what should I say Amara is good in prostitution? So stop this extreme thinking.
This was the most intellegent way that the “Oromo Cause” has been explained to me…I am by birth Oromo and Amhara, however, I never understood such a radicalism to creat a monoethnic “Oromian” naton.
I have a question for Ato Jewar:
Why do most Oromo elites refuse to deal with Pan-Ethiopian rebel groups if the purpose is not to “defeat” the opressors and impose the OLD ideology??
Why are the OLF leaders running away from making a solidarity coalition with, lets say, Ginbot 7 or EPPF, to destroy the TPLF so that we can establish a harmonious nation??
I believe that the OLF elites are allergic to the Unity ideas as most Ethiopians are to the secationist ideology.
Mr. Jewar, I wish you and your fellow Oromo elites preach the same idea and thinking to the Oromos in Mennesota who HATE anything Ethiopian! They must have learned to hate…right? It’s funny to be an Oromo and be hated by other Oromos, because I refuse to hate the nation that gave birth to my heritage.
Mr. Jewar, please answer me these questions.
Thank you.
Can this guy explain the Arbaggugu massacre of Amharic-speaking people?? Who else committed this crime other than the OLF??? I hate these elites who use beautiful words on paper and have an ugly and poisoned mentality when it comes to action.
The OLF would like to be another ethnocentric mercinary group like the TPLF in power if given the chance.
Peace,
Mr. Peace, nothing is scary, dangerous, worrisome, and unproductive other than the spread of Islam through many Ethiopian Fatimas that breed like wild cats, and I’m certain most Amharas have no patience any more to accommodate the multiplicities of unwanted births of the Ethiopian Arab Muslims in this holy land of the Christian Kingdom.
For example, if an Ethiopian Christian Dinkinesh gives birth to ten children, she would not be able to raise all ten of them, but if an Ethiopian Fatima gives birth to twenty children, she could be able to raise all of them without any problem at all because of the charity money she could be receiving from Saudi Arabia; all Ethiopian Arab Muslims are encouraged by the Arab-Muslim world to have more children and to populate Ethiopia with Muslim children, and that is what happening now in Ethiopia if you are aware of it.
Yes, I have said all Ethiopians are Amharas, and I will say it again and again, and if you understand logic, and I believe you do, I will say it this way:
All Ethiopians are Amharas.
Tigryans, Gurages, and Gallas are Ethiopians.
Therefore, Tigryans, Gurages, and Gallas are Amharas.
The Amhara tribe represents all the other Ethiopian tribes; all the other tribes are in the Amhara tribes. It is like the saying of Jesus: “Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?” (John 14:10) Any Oromo, or Tigre, or Gurage can say: “Don’t you believe that I am in the Amhara, and that the Amhara is in me?”
And I am not joking when I’m expressing the reality that when the Amharas go down, with them all the other tribes go down, and when the Amharas prosper, all the other tribes also prosper. It is like the economy of our time; when the American economy breaks down, the economy of the rest of the world breaks down.
You cannot understand the natures of the Ethiopian Arab Muslims who destroyed Ethiopia under the leadership of Gragn Muhammad, and you don’t understand what is going on in the minds of all the Ethiopian Arab Muslims, especially in the minds of the Oromo Arab Muslims: they are waiting and waiting until they pick up a Muslim leader that would destroy the Amharas’ Christian Kingdom. The Turks, the Iranians, the Egyptians, the Saudis, and the Sudanese are pushing hard the Ethiopian Arab Muslim, particularly the Oromo Arab Muslims, to rise up and take the Ethiopian Christian Kingdom, and that is why some of these foreign Arab Muslims are buying a lot of Ethiopian lands and trading with Ethiopia all year around.
In some ways, you seem to understand the mischievous activities of some of the Egyptian clerics whose daily prayers to their moon-god allah are nothing else but for the downfall of the Ethiopian Christian dome. If you believe Islam is a fake religion that teaches violence, enhances adultery, oppresses women, and spreads Sharia all over the world, then you have to hate all the Jihadists who are burning the Christian Churches on a daily basis in the Oromia regions and in other countries.
Those gentle Ethiopian Arab Muslims have already been radicalized by the Saudi Arab Muslim extremists, and it is very risky to live with them or work with them or have them as one’s good neighbors.
My agenda is simple, clear and pure: Ethiopia has one religion, Christianity; one language, Amharic; one culture, the Amhara culture; and one leader, a Christian one, bad or good.
Any contributions the Oromos have made, if there are any, are contributions well planned and executed under the smart leadership of the Amhara people. When an army general defeats his enemy in a battle field, it is the general who is praised and awarded medals of bravery, not each soldier that fought the battle under his/her general.
You want the Oromos to take control of Ethiopia, and you know that Oromos are Muslims, and most Muslims are Jihadists who believe in Sharia and in killing the non Muslims – the Christians – so that they could easily go to paradise and have sex with the Muhammad’s Paradise virgin girls.
After the destruction of my Churches, my holy Monasteries, and my valuable documents by a Muslim leader – Gragn Muhammad – I don’t want to see my Christian country fall into the hands of the pugnacious Ethiopian Arab Muslims. Not any more!
You wrote: “Amharas are…degrading…Oromo….” If, indeed, the Amharas are purposely disparaging the Oromos, then the Amharas are belittling themselves because the Oromos are in Amharas and the Amharas are in Oromos as I have explained earlier.
I will never understand though why you said: “…Amhara is good in prostitution?”
You must be running a prostitution business somewhere in the Oromia region and you may know very well who your customers are, and I’m sure the Amharas are not your regular customers; the Amharas are too busy in planning to bring a democratic leader and in protecting the country. Prostitution is for the Oromo Arab Muslims, not for the Amhara holy race. The real definition of prostitution here is to try to disintegrate Ethiopia and the real definition of holiness is to keep Ethiopia united; therefore, the Oromo Arab Muslims are the real prostitutes, and the Amharas are the true holy ones; however, the prostitute Oromo Arab Muslims can be sanctified through the holiness of the Amhara blessed race.
Mr. Elias Kifle
I beleive you have a duty to deny printing garbages coming from the likes of Asta B. Getu. He does not have anything of substance except outright insults of all ethnic groups and the relegion of Islam. Posting such kind of hate filled diatribe is a reflection of your site as well.
Asheber necho
I am sorry to see that you have already the mentality of us versus them and it becomes a problem that is the problem we are facing now. Things evolve and you have evolve with it also for the better of Ethiopia. Trust me, according to your narrow mind pro-Amara attitude like those of Tigreans and Oromos is what got us in this in the first place. The future Ethiopia is not Amara domination again but diverse ethnic groups. That is what the majority far-sighted Ethiopians are striving for. You need to think forward not backwards in the feudalism era. I STRONGLY disagree that All Ethiopians are Amaras attitude. You are still thinking of the domination of Amara. If you are still thinking that way, indeed other tribes such as the Oromos are radicalized and I don’t think you will win the war anymore. If you mean All Ethiopians are Amaras because of domination of Amaras with Amharic being spoken and spreading of Amara culture all over Ethiopia then you may be right but other Ethiopians have recognized this now that Ethiopia should be lead by diverse groups of tribes to bring democracy. To me you sound like you don’t believe in democracy if you only believe in Amara rule. Why do you think TPLF and OLF was formed in the first place, to stop the domination of Amara although eventually they became pro ethnic extremist. I wonder why right? Usually I find myself disagreeing with such people. However I find now that there are pro Amara extremists such as you and now I have to keep that in mind. It is such pro Amara attitude such as yours that creates resentment from other tribes. The more you push such attitude of pro Amara dominance the more you are putting Ethiopia as a whole at risk. You seem like you are again spreading pro Amara propaganda like it used to be. What makes this so disagreeable is that you have the total disregard for Tigreans’ contribution of what makes Ethiopia, Ethiopia the most. Let us see Axum civilization, ancient Christianity, Ase Johannes, so on. So your claim of Ethiopia = Amara ONLY is arrogant. Thanks to such thinkers like you this is where we are now. Don’t forget if you continue such path, you are putting your Amara tribe at risk, as TPLF is doing on Tigreans. The goal is to eradicate such pro ethnic mentality. I am sure you know of the Rwanda case.
Nevertheless, we are all interrelated that if one goes down, we all go down. For instance, an attack by extremist Islam Oromos, of course not only affects other tribes but the moderate and christian Oromos. You also have a problem of generalization. Remember, when you become moderate you have the advantage of bringing others who may disagree with you to the table and eventually agree with you. In the end though, I have a feeling Ethiopians moderate who will prevail, not the OLF, TPLF or your kind of Amara.
Of course the unnatural way of Islam spreading through out Ethiopia is worrisome. Don’t forget also Evangelism from the West is also spreading like fire in Ethiopia.
Assta,
My above note is addressed to you and I forgot to address it.
I would like to add also what you said about generals. So, who should be recognized for war not those who died for their country but those of who have high rank? What kind of ignorance is that? You don’t believe those who died of Oromos for their country did not contribute to the sovereignty of Ethiopia? Who else do you call the most heroes then? Those who sit above and loot the people of Ethiopia whether during Haileselassie, or TPLF? I doubt if Mengistu looted Ethiopia, he was just ruthless.
Thanks to Mr, Jawar Siraj Mohamed and Professor Messay Kebede’s debate because through the debate a common understanding may most likely develop as time goes by – understanding based on mutual respect for each other. Ethiopia is a unique country with a unique history and with undeniably unique state formation and which is rightly going through a unique objective course to establish itself in a new and a final unclear setting.
Mr, Messay is a believer of democratic Ethiopia and equally I believe Mr. Jawar is not divorced from the same thesis but is more realistic by shedding light on the OROMO nationalism which is symbolic for most of the oppressed, colonised and dehumanised southern people. Ahmara people are far from supper race who love Ethiopia because they are the one who created this chaos after more then one century in power and I find offensive and extremism of the highest order that Muslims in Eritrea and Ethiopia are classed as foreigners in their own ancestral land. Abyssinia was confined to the highlands and was predominately Christian but when with the help of the sponsors of Berlin partition powers Abyssinia stretched it self to engulf and colonise other nationalities is that when “Christian Ethiopia” faded away – Oromos, Somalis, Afars and etc were Muslims as early as the 7th century.
It is not the Muslims who went out to colonise the Christian Highlanders, it is not the Muslims who imposed their language and culture on the other nations and certainly it was not Muslim regimes who delivered this failure. The oppressed nations have every right to liberate themselves from oppression and in doing so the struggle will be distasteful to the sons, Assta B. Gettu, of the Generals the feudal system favoured for so long. Mr. Assta B. Gettu and his likes are doing a favour for the Ethiopian discourse because his contribution although disdainful puts on the spot light the narrow mindedness of some of our people – ultra Amharic Christian fundamentalists.
We all should aim to be objective and realistic when addressing the question of Ethiopia as it stands at this juncture and we must not in any way deny the history but on the contrary learn from it. Mr. Mele Zenawi didn’t introduce Kilils but was imposed on him because when the TPLF took power major ethnicities were in full control of the areas they dominate; the TPLF to become legitimate to rule had no choice but accept the reality on the ground. The same can be said about the DERGU – to be seen legitimate they have to address the land question.
The DERGU regime moved the country from the abhorrent reactionary feudalism to republic although it was not bloodless revolution and the TPLF moved the power from centre to the regional states although this process is not done according to the satisfaction of the federal regions. At this point in time the social and political situation of the country needs to take the third step – fully fledging democratic federal state of Ethiopia in which Christian and Muslims enjoy the same right or nine separate African states.
The clouds of despair and destruction are gathering in the horizon because the TPLF failed to produce an all inclusive federal government and because we see among the many, ethnic based OLF and ONLF, are fighting against the same TPLF they were fighting side by side two decades ago and this signifies that the transition to genuine federal democratic Ethiopia is becoming difficult to achieve unless the TPLF regime sacrifices its love for power for the good of Ethiopia which seems very unlikely in light of the TPLF’s preparation for war before the 2010 election.
The debate to be meaningful we shouldn’t loose the plot – how we can save Ethiopia is the question and going back to yesteryears is no remedy at all. The forty year old Oromo or Somali has no recollection of how imperial Ethiopia conducted its business, how its flag look like, Amharic language, the Ethiopian student movement or whether EPRP ever existed – simply all that was the game of the centre which is seen by the rest as some thing which was happening as far away as china.
To some my opinion could appear as dooms day whistle blower but I would say life is not about holding good cards but playing a poor hand well. We are looking at a very precarious situation which calls for all concerned to pool our thoughts in saving over eighty million Ethiopians from the likes of my good friend Mr. Assta B. Gettu – ultra Amharic Christian fundamentalist which can be rightly called as Al -Shabab’s Ethiopian version
Abdikarim,
The idea of secession is a disaster because the motive is out of resentment of past and present oppression. Does this mean the nations that will break up from Ethiopia are going to live happily ever after? I don’t think so. As more climate, and economy of the world affects, consider, these nations will still not be satisfied because they will be extremely limited to resources. Why do you think Quebec decided against secession, it is exactly for resource reason that they are better off as part of Canada. Eritrea, even though they are denying this out of ego, it is clear now Eritrea can’t survive without Ethiopia’s resources. Just recently it gave the port to Iran but it has been out of service for 17 years. Eritrea in the past had enjoyed resources from Ethiopia and when it was time to stop their looting then they delcared war. So, this is why extremmists such as OLF, ONLF, TPLF etc, don’t get. Leaders of these are power hungry and they don’t give a thing about their people. Take again the example of Eritrea. Can we say Eritrea is now better off? Why are its people flying from the land, no religious freedom, poverty, etc. Apparently their calculation of over 30 years of war is in vain. You sacrifice that much money and people in the end for what for this? That is what I am afraid of, the supidity of these Liberation Fronts will lead to the demise of the horn of Africa. If they want centuries of war, under developemnt, poverty, etc, then welcome aboard. Oh, not to mention, easy for the Western nations to control these break up of nations. Djibouti has become a home for the French and U.S and its people are second class. Eritrea will soon be the same.
Asheber necho,
Elias Kifle has a duty, and his noble duty is to post any person’s opinions, Islam’s or Christian’s, since any person in this country or in the world of Elias Kifle, a distinguished journalist and well known for telling the truth as it is, is entitled to express his/her thoughts of insults or of blessings.
Mr. Peace, why do you hate your masters, your leaders, your providers, your protectors, your mentors, and your creators – the Amhara people? You hate them for a simple reason for they have always been at the front in defending Ethiopia from its foreign enemies as well as from its internal ones – the Ethiopian Arab Muslims, the Mecca refugees.
I want you to know that there is no place in Ethiopia where the Amhara blood has not been spilt for the defense of the Ethiopian people: The trees, the grass, the valleys, the meadows, the mountains, the rivers, the lakes, and all the living creatures in Ethiopia have the blood of the Amhara people sprinkled on each one of them. They all can testify if you deny the truth that once upon a time, the mighty warriors of the Amhara people have passed through them, died and buried there for a noble cause – to unify Ethiopia under one Ethiopian flag, under one Ethiopian faith or belief in Christ Jesus, the Son of God and the Savior of the world.
If you are detesting the Christian Amharas and instead supporting Islam, the byproduct of the false prophet Muhammad, the Jihadist, the rapist, and the anti Christ, you are then a doomed creature, and all who advocate the legitimacy of Islam in Ethiopia are the sons and daughters of the devil that inspired Muhammad to destroy the Christians because they believe that salvation is through Jesus Christ only.
After all, what is democracy without the leadership of the Amhara people, the melting pot of all the other Ethiopian tribes? Democracy is not new for the Amhara people; by nature, all Amharas are democratic people who believe in the rule of law, justice, equality, and belief in the Ancient of the Ages. If the Amhara people were strangers to democracy, Ethiopia could have been disintegrated long time ago, but it never has happened, thanks to the democracy-loving race – the Amhara people.
You wrote: “It is such pro Amara attitude such as yours that creates resentment from other tribes.” By the way, who are these other tribes you are referring to many times? Are there other tribes besides the Amhara tribes, tribes that do not have the Amhara blood, the Amhara spirit, the Amhara culture, the Amhara belief, and the Amhara work of ethics? Even the buildings, the trees, the rivers, and the birds of the air have the Amhara names.
You are too slow to recognize such a fundamental fact that has existed in Ethiopia since the time of Ardipithecus ramidus, but I’m certain you are learning step by step all the facts that the Amhara people are the souls of all the other Ethiopians, including the new comers – the Ethiopian Arab Muslims.
Your OLF and TPLF have no power to confine or limit the divine sovereignty of the Amhara people, a dominant race that inspires the spirits of the other Ethiopian races to claim equality with the Amhara people, and the Amhara people welcome any ones to acquire that sovereign status if one deserves it as ychiwa lij does.
Telling the true history of the Amhara people is not per se endangering the Amhara people as you think it is so. I have told you once, twice and many times that the Tegarues, the Oromos, the Gurages, and the rest of the other tribes are all Amharas; each one of them have the Amhara blood, and they cannot wash it away easily even if they try hard by creating OLF for only this bizarre purpose, and it is only people like you, especially the foreigners – the Ethiopian Arab Muslims – who are trying to split the Ethiopian unity so that through the crack they have made they could easily bring in their satanic faith – Islam and spread it all over Ethiopia. Gragn Muhammad, Yuhidit Gudit, and Lij Iyasu tried their best to create such uncalled-for division, but they all failed because of the heroic actions and determinations of the Amhara people.
Evangelization and Islamization are two different missions carried on by two distinct religious organizations: Evangelization brings people to Christ, their personal savior, but Islamization brings people closer to the Kingdom of the devil and to the love of money, lust, power, and false paradise. Islam is totally unacceptable faith, yet Christianity in its different forms is much, much better than Islam, Muhammad’s propaganda to dominate the world through his sword and Jihadism.
You believe Mengistu Haile Mariam didn’t loot Ethiopia, and I also believe that King Haile Selassie didn’t loot Ethiopia that much either; however, you will agree with me that Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi) and Jezebel (Azeb) Golla have been looting Ethiopia for almost 18 years by selling some of its fertile lands to the greedy Arab Muslims, but I am not on your side when you assert that Meles Seitanawi is not responsible for the creation of Kilil equivalent to the former East German Wall.
Mr. Abdikarim Buh, any person who struggles in the name of Islam to dismantle the unity of the Ethiopian people is condemned to fail. The Oromos, the Somalis, and the Afars do not exist as nations during the 7th century, and during this time Muhammad himself was fighting for his life with the Mecca citizens, and his false religion, Islam has not yet crossed the Mediterranean Sea, and the Oromos and the Somalis were innocent heathens better than Jihadist Muslims.
Call me conservative or ultra-Amhara Christian, I am here to preserve the dignity, history, Christianity of the Amhara people and to silence the barking dogs – the Islamist nationalists – who are barking day and night for a piece of bread to fall from the Amhara table.
Ato Assta,
Ayee, I feel sorry for you. You are still intoxicated with high complex, you do know high complex is as much problem as those with low complex. That is why your Amara is in extinct. Therefore, be careful. It is interesting you left out my comment about Tigray and Axum, hummmm now you are not going to erase fact are you? What about the heroes of Oromos who died for Ethiopia? Your comment is completely wrong about Amara everywhere. What are you talking about here? Amara’s domination politically and socially? Perhaps yes. If you are talking about race, in fact Oromos are the dominant in Ethiopia where there are Oromos in every Amara blood. In other words, lots of mixed Oromo-Amara, Oromo-Gurage, Oromo-Tigre, you name it. So, your argument is indeed weak. This is the fact, there is Oromo blood in every Ethiopian tribes. It is really not fruitful to discuss with someone whose really ego is based on race and narcissism when in the 21st century we should be focusing on democracy, diversity and unity for Ethiopia. Trust me, you will be isolated on this issue. I am really sorry though, I am afraid your dream of Amara bluffing might be too late for you. Blame TPLF and Shaebia.
Mr. Peace,
How true the Scripture is when Jesus told to the crying crowd, following him while in his way to Golgotha or Calvary or Keranio to be crucified: “Daughters of Jerusalem do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children.” (Luke 23:28)
Therefore, Mr. Peace, don’t feel sorry or don’t cry for me; you must rather feel sad for yourself and for your friends for betraying the Amhara people and allying yourself with the superficial Oromo Arab Muslims for the sake of Oromo nationalism.
Only some people at the low level of understanding and comprehending the dynamic history of the Amhara people always imagine that the Amhara race is “in extinct.” I will tell to such ignoramus and idiot persons that the Amhara people will stay on this Earth forever and ever because they believe in one eternal God, and therefore, they are eternal in Jesus Christ.
You want me to repeat what I have said before, and it is not a big problem to retell what I have said since you are too slow to understand some complex issues; you must remember that the Oromos, the Tegarues, and the other Ethiopian tribes cannot function without the presence of the Amhara spirit in them: without the Amhara spirit, they are all dead corpuses.
You want me to say something about Axum; Axum is the product and the glory of the Amhara race – the race of all the other Ethiopian tribes including the Oromos, the Gurages and the rest. The Lalibela Churches and the Gondar Castles – all of these wonders of the world – are the Amharas’ historical properties. If the Amharas are instinct, they will be survived by their blood – the Oromos, the Tegarues, the Gurages, and the other Ethiopian tribes.
Taking my statement – the Amhara blood is in every other Ethiopian tribe’s blood – you said: “…there are Oromos in every Amhara blood.” What is the difference between your statement and that of mine? My statement is the original while yours is a copy of my statement. I am the one who first said that the Amhara blood is in Oromo, Tegarues, Gurage, and other Ethiopian tribe’s blood. You twist my sentence and claim as yours just like the false Prophet Muhammad who twisted the Holy Scripture to give his satanic Quran the status of the Holy Bible.
You wrote: “…in the 21st Century we should be focusing on democracy, diversity and unity for Ethiopia.”
To tell you the truth, democracy and unity, divested of the Amhara history, culture, civilization, Christianity, and all the etiquettes, are not valid for most of the Ethiopian people. One cannot import an alien democracy and plant it on the Ethiopian soil; if one does, it will never grow and produce tantalizing fruits.
Any democracy to succeed in Ethiopia must be crafted by the Ethiopian peasants, by the Ethiopian priests, debteras, monks, deacons, memhers, and by many other homegrown Ethiopian scholars. The Athenians or the American democracy may never work in Ethiopia because it lacks the flavor of the Amhara culture such as “acbrot, ulinta, tihitina, metezazen,” and “medegagef” or “meredadat.” One rarely finds such indispensable values in the 21st American or European democracy.
Ato Peace,
It is strange you feel sorry for me for telling the history and integrity of the Amhara people; you feel sorry for me because I have defended vigorously the goodness of the Amhara people who are falsely accused of subjugating the Oromos and the other tribes. By any means, you have the right to wail all days and cry out all nights for those of us who love our country and stand up against you and your likes who are attempting to dismantle the solid unity of the Ethiopian people in the name of a fake democracy – the type of democracy that Meles and his followers call “the emerging democracy” instead of calling such a superficial democracy an expanding tyranny under the umbrella of democracy, and that is the kind of democracy the Oromo Arab Muslims are used to, not the Amhara people’s type of democracy – unity and the love of a country.
I have no idea why you brought Axum into our discussion as if Axum represents the civilization of the Axumites only but not the other tribes; Axum, however, represents all the Amharas, and the old and modern civilization of the Amharas represent the Oromos and the other tribes. I can understand that you are trying to create division between the Amharas and the Tegarues, and that is why you picked up Axum, thinking that Axum stands for the Tegarues only, but you are, as always, totally wrong because you have never seen how many Amharas make a pilgrimage to Axum every year and how many Tegarues make the same pilgrimage to Lalibela, to Amba-Gishen Mariam, and to Christos Semra every year. The pilgrimage each Amhara and each Tigray make every year shows the unbroken relationships between the Amharas and the Tegarues and their deep devotion to their creator.
If you think I will be isolated on the issue of the Amhara race, you will be also isolated for ignoring and humiliating the Amhara race that has never been dominated by any race except by his own closely related tribes, the Oromos, the Gurages, the Tegarues, and the rest of the other tribes.
Ato Getu, are you in your right state of mind? check if there is anything called Ethiopia on the map before 1970 (there are abyssinia, galla land, somali..etc). Ethiopia was created by force with western help and that is being reversed, so eat your heart out.
I bet you, you are not even Amara because you don’t sound like one. You are some body who want to creat more division between Oromo and Amara.
Be positive and find a way to understand others’ or even when you critisize be constructive and reasonable.
I wish i have a better way of making you understan, than by simply saying those days are gone, period.
Now, take a moment to see a reality on the ground as it is….Ethiopia is in Oromo’s hand to make it or break it, isn’t it?
You are day dreaming hard body…take it easy and may God enlighten you with some common sense but until then keep writing these nonsenses som some day you may come up with some thing that will make a better sense.
Ato Ayele,
I urge you to spell my name correctly and to study the map of Ethiopia diligently. I think you are reading the Oromo Arab-Muslims’ distorted map that shows Lake Tana and other Amharas’ historical sites in the Oromo areas. Your whole point to erase the name Ethiopia and replace it with the old name Abyssinia and to designate Ethiopia as the right name for Oromia indicates you are insecure or unhappy first with the name Galla and now with name Oromia. Even if we allow you to use the name Ethiopia as the right name of Oromia and the name Finfinne as the proper name for Addis Ababa, you still feel emptiness inside you because you are born with inferiority complex and your ancestors had been bought and sold by the Arab Muslims and nothing will make you confident in yourself.
The Amharas tried to change your “yebetashinet,” but you refused to listen to your Amhara masters because inferiority is in your DNA and you will never get rid of this shameful code you have had in your blood.
You wrote: “I bet you, you are not even Amara because you don’t sound like one.” I assure you I am a proud and confident Ethiopian, not Amhara, not Tigray, not Gurage, not Oromo, and not any of the other tribes; I am simply an Ethiopian Christian who believes in the unity and prosperity of Ethiopia but who abhors the division of Ethiopia and who try to curve the spread of Islam in the land of the Amhara Christians – the Ethiopian Christians.
Can you tell me how an Amhara sounds, how an Oromo sounds, how a Gurage sounds, and how you sound if you are an expert on identifying someone’s ethnicity by the way he sounds, writes, converses, walks, and runs his business affairs?
You said: “…those days are gone….” Which days are you talking about? The Ethiopian Christians are still Christians; the Ethiopian Arab Muslims are still Arab Muslims; the Gallas are still Gallas, and the Amharas are still Amharas, so which one of these groups are you talking about when you say “those days are gone”? But I will tell you what are gone forever are Finfinne, Christianity from Oromia, the name Ethiopia, and the pagan culture of the Oromo people. You can stick to your Cushitic culture and share the Sudanese way of life if you refuse to accept the most sophisticated and advanced Amhara culture.
Good luck!