When a Pan Africanist came to ask Menelik to be the leader for his group, Menelik told him that's a great idea but you are knocking at the wrong door, for I am not a Negro, I am a Caucasian!!!

Your cheap shot has been cut to size by scientific evidence.

First, you failed to answer the question about which Amharic words were used to describe "Negro" and "Caucasian" in Menelik's speech?

Second, Ethiopia has fathered and mothered who have been labeled "Negro" and "Caucasian" in recent times. I don't know if Nature and Science are above your subscription level, but make sure to get evidences published in them to understand how Ethiopia fathered and mothered both.

Here are some leads to educate yourself:
Genotype, haplotype and copy-number variation in worldwide human populations
Worldwide Human Relationships Inferred from Genome-Wide Patterns of Variation

And here are some samples of the "Caucasian" and "Negro" Ethiopia fathered and mothered.




So, if the labeling wasn't clear as it isn't today, it tells more about your confusion than the reality on the ground. You shouldn't feel lost between Ethiopia and Italy.

Leave all the labeling aside then and look at the looks of Menelik on the notion that was what he saw ...day in day out to the time when he made those remarks.
Forget the fact that he's emporer and take him for just a man...presented with a suggestion of which race he sees himself in; simply put, does he see himself as the man asking the question or as a man from the land which he's standing on? There is no need to look at this from a perspective much different than what I have presented - What could make you think that the question is loaded or that his answer was misinterpreted - remeber linguistics can change with the times carrying all sorts of interpretations but what defines it most is the time and Environment as well as context in which it is used...take the word "ni**er", it was a huge insult not too long ago and now among some AA communtiy its a term of endearment whilst its still carries the baggage with it in another crowd.

Accept the fact that Menelik associated color with modernity and ignorance, which would also carry the connotation of pride and shame.

When a Pan Africanist came to ask Menelik to be the leader for his group, Menelik told him that's a great idea but you are knocking at the wrong door, for I am not a Negro, I am a Caucasian!!!

Your cheap shot has been cut to size by scientific evidence.

First, you failed to answer the question about which Amharic words were used to describe "Negro" and "Caucasian" in Menelik's speech?

Second, Ethiopia has fathered and mothered who have been labeled "Negro" and "Caucasian" in recent times. I don't know if Nature and Science are above your subscription level, but make sure to get evidences published in them to understand how Ethiopia fathered and mothered both.

Here are some leads to educate yourself:
Genotype, haplotype and copy-number variation in worldwide human populations
Worldwide Human Relationships Inferred from Genome-Wide Patterns of Variation

And here are some samples of the "Caucasian" and "Negro" Ethiopia fathered and mothered.




So, if the labeling wasn't clear as it isn't today, it tells more about your confusion than the reality on the ground. You shouldn't feel lost between Ethiopia and Italy.

Tuma:

You have something interesting there. I never thought you have scientific interest much like I do. It's good to know that I can relate to you in science what we lack in philosophy.

Leave all the labeling aside then and look at the looks of Menelik on the notion that was what he saw ...day in day out to the time when he made those remarks.
Forget the fact that he's emporer and take him for just a man...presented with a suggestion of which race he sees himself in; simply put, does he see himself as the man asking the question or as a man from the land which he's standing on? There is no need to look at this from a perspective much different than what I have presented - What could make you think that the question is loaded or that his answer was misinterpreted - remeber linguistics can change with the times carrying all sorts of interpretations but what defines it most is the time and Environment as well as context in which it is used...take the word "ni**er", it was a huge insult not too long ago and now among some AA communtiy its a term of endearment whilst its still carries the baggage with it in another crowd.

Accept the fact that Menelik associated color with modernity and ignorance, which would also carry the connotation of pride and shame.

You have made this so simplistic. You should have gone to the root of the issue, which is unchecked Christianization that was started in your land, which was then followed by "Semitization."

"... by the Will of God the whole of the kingdom of the world was given to the seed of Shem and slavery to the seed of Ham," it was written. That then led to this: "The Tigreans had to deny that they were the Hamites of the Old Testament," it has been argued.

So asking Menelik II, who lived a century ago, whether he saw "himself as the man asking the question or as a man from the land which he's standing on" isn't different from asking you whether you consider yourself a seed of Shem or Ham. And remember, this is not Menelik I, but Menelik II.

"... by the Will of God the whole of the kingdom of the world was given to the seed of Shem and slavery to the seed of Ham," it was written. That then led to this: "The Tigreans had to deny that they were the Hamites of the Old Testament," it has been argued.

Who in their right mind would give in to such a labeling. Even as a slave working the fields I would tell you "i am not the slave,. It is the white man who has thrown his humanity aside for he is now a slave to money an power."

Tuma:

You have something interesting there. I never thought you have scientific interest much like I do. It's good to know that I can relate to you in science what we lack in philosophy.

Sure, you sound like a scientist. Don't make me feel insecure, lol.

"... by the Will of God the whole of the kingdom of the world was given to the seed of Shem and slavery to the seed of Ham," it was written. That then led to this: "The Tigreans had to deny that they were the Hamites of the Old Testament," it has been argued.

Who in their right mind would give in to such a labeling. Even as a slave working the fields I would tell you "i am not the slave,. It is the white man who has thrown his humanity aside for he is now a slave to money an power."

Not sure what you are trying to get at. We shouldn't be atuned to shallow explanations and generalizations.

Menelik II and rapper Rick Ross look identical and both suffer from Syphilis

.
Jabaha,
Seemingly, it is a politics of amygdala, which is of course based on vicarious trauma, feeding off memories of past tragedies. Surely, you are continuing to reawake and revivify past traumatic memories and trying to block the future ground for brotherhood and reconciliation.
Regardless, your claim about Minilik and Haileselase, we all needs justice, freedom, brotherhood and peaceful co-existence with mutual respect. We do not need to revivify past tragedy and prepare our people for revenge; instead we should learn from the past and work together in order not to repeat previous mistakes.
Slandering words are not helping anyone of us, but expose our own incompetency and triviality.

Shalom:

No need to waste your time on this full time Ethiopian hater. If you follow up the posting of this individual, it won't be that difficult to figure Jebha, Fed-Up and Hawi are all one person. His characterstic is defined here all the time. He insults day and night Ethiopian women. This happen due to insecurity and it is totally associated with regection. He must have had obsession on Ethiopian women and that obsession turned to hate when he don't get it.

Shalom:

No need to waste your time on this full time Ethiopian hater. If you follow up the posting of this individual, it won't be that difficult to figure Jebha, Fed-Up and Hawi are all one person. His characterstic is defined here all the time. He insults day and night Ethiopian women. This happen due to insecurity and it is totally associated with regection. He must have had obsession on Ethiopian women and that obsession turned to hate when he don't get it.

Jebah the names tells every thing. He thinks he is superior than any other race in the world. He might mixed with Arab blood and that is what he insults us because we are not Arabs the same as he is.
He might have some kind mixed blood with Italians. Who knows? Let him spit his filthy mouth and we are not going to ignore him one way or the other.We are neighbors and we want to live peacefully with those proud Eriterans. But there are some stupid s and idiots who wants to make trouble in any way they wish. But we are not that stupid.
They can insult our proud and brave ex Ethiopian leaders if that is their mission to succeed. May be That is the only way they can vent their frustration in this forum. We don't have to go back and wake up the dead ones in order to make our point heard.
We Ethiopians know how to deal with those low life people like Jebha and the rest of those who followed him and crack their mouth for no reason. Enough is enough if you have an issue, a very important issue bring it on. Let us deal with it with respect. If you don't have, go to your Eritrean web. and insult your own people.