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Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Yakume » 07 Jul 2012, 14:15


Naga Tuma wrote:
Yakume wrote:The confederation of the Horn of Africa countries (UNITED HORN OF AFRICA NATION) is coming soon. So, no need to worry about this issue. There will be regional integration ‘of course after peace”, free movement of the citizens and trade in the region, no fighting and conflicts, and also shuftas in our region. So Ethiopia will not landlocked country.

ስራ የፈታች መነኩሴ ቆብዋን ቀዳ ትሰፋለች ኣሉ - That is to say a jobless monk tears her hat and sews it.


Naga Tuma, don't be hopeless and let’s have our dream and change it into plan. The change should come from us, not from Tigray frogs and other criminals in Ethiopia. Peace is possible and no one can stop it, but we must sacrifice, accept the coming change, and protect it. No peace without rule of law, protection of basic human rights principles and good governance. No need for zeraf and guerrilla works in our region. EU, USA and Arab are united. Let’s have the same in our region.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Naga Tuma » 07 Jul 2012, 15:04


Yakume wrote:
Naga Tuma wrote:
Yakume wrote:The confederation of the Horn of Africa countries (UNITED HORN OF AFRICA NATION) is coming soon. So, no need to worry about this issue. There will be regional integration ‘of course after peace”, free movement of the citizens and trade in the region, no fighting and conflicts, and also shuftas in our region. So Ethiopia will not landlocked country.

ስራ የፈታች መነኩሴ ቆብዋን ቀዳ ትሰፋለች ኣሉ - That is to say a jobless monk tears her hat and sews it.


Naga Tuma, don't be hopeless and let’s have our dream and change it into plan. The change should come from us, not from Tigray frogs and other criminals in Ethiopia. Peace is possible and no one can stop it, but we must sacrifice, accept the coming change, and protect it. No peace without rule of law, protection of basic human rights principles and good governance. No need for zeraf and guerrilla works in our region. EU, USA and Arab are united. Let’s have the same in our region.

If you misunderstood my comment, let me repeat it. Any effort at disuniting shouldn't have been an option, as far as I am concerned. Lack of the rule of law, protection of human right principles and good governance wasn't an option, either, as far as I am concerned. I have helped in bringing you to the direction of change that you are now pointing me at, in your urge to show off your self-importance. That proverb befits you well, doesn't it?



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Yakume » 07 Jul 2012, 15:09


Naga Tuma wrote: If you misunderstood my comment, let me repeat it. Any effort at disuniting shouldn't have been an option, as far as I am concerned. Lack of the rule of law, protection of human right principles and good governance wasn't an option, either, as far as I am concerned. I have helped in bringing you to the direction of change that you are now pointing me at, in your urge to show off your self-importance. That proverb befits you well, doesn't it?


So, what are the options and solutions?



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Naga Tuma » 07 Jul 2012, 15:16


Yakume wrote:
Naga Tuma wrote: If you misunderstood my comment, let me repeat it. Any effort at disuniting shouldn't have been an option, as far as I am concerned. Lack of the rule of law, protection of human right principles and good governance wasn't an option, either, as far as I am concerned. I have helped in bringing you to the direction of change that you are now pointing me at, in your urge to show off your self-importance. That proverb befits you well, doesn't it?


So, what are the options and solutions?

Options: Unity, rule of law versus disunity, another Somalia.
Solution: The first option.

Is this new? No, probably only to individuals like you.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby ProudEthiopian » 07 Jul 2012, 17:20


I think we should blame Meles and USA more than arabs for this situation.
Roha wrote:No power, no matter how big, will be able to keep Ethiopia landlocked forever. Meles knows this very well, he is just waiting for better opportunity. Every lazy Arab has access to the sea, even little town called Dijibouti but not the Ethiopians. Every African and Ethiopian should know why the Arabs, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are busy in the affairs of Ethiopia with their hired slaves such as Isaias Arabqit to keep Ethiopia landlocked.
It is funny, there are only fifty thousand Afars in Eritrea who control 700 kms of the Red Sea and there are only four thousand Arabs of Saudi Rashaida in Eritrea with 300 kms of the sea coast. All in all while the Arab Rashaida are busy raping and selling Eritreans to other Arabs. But 90 million Ethiopians are landlocked, this is an Arab insult to Ethiopians.
This is what happens when you have retarded leaders.
Halafmegedi wrote:
My disagreement with Eritreans or Shaebia or Issayas is not as people I hate them but the position they have taken against Tigray and Ethiopia, specifically border and sea outlet. If the sea outlet for Eritreans was very shallow or narrow space let’s say Djibouti like then I would not claim Tigray and Ethiopia should have an access to the sea by snatching from the Eritreans the only access they have but the sea outlet is over 1000 miles long and Eritrea does not need it and using it either. The Eritrean stand is simply to punish Tigrayans and Ethiopians more than anything else. If this is the case then Tigray and Ethiopia do not have any recourse but to sharpen their knives and defend their long term interest and security for their existence in this planet.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Yakume » 07 Jul 2012, 18:06


Naga Tuma wrote:
Yakume wrote:
Naga Tuma wrote: If you misunderstood my comment, let me repeat it. Any effort at disuniting shouldn't have been an option, as far as I am concerned. Lack of the rule of law, protection of human right principles and good governance wasn't an option, either, as far as I am concerned. I have helped in bringing you to the direction of change that you are now pointing me at, in your urge to show off your self-importance. That proverb befits you well, doesn't it?


So, what are the options and solutions?

Options: Unity, rule of law versus disunity, another Somalia.
Solution: The first option.

Is this new? No, probably only to individuals like you.


I think you are not serious. If so, its good you accept the current Tigray regime.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Naga Tuma » 07 Jul 2012, 20:36


Yakume wrote:
Naga Tuma wrote:
Yakume wrote:
So, what are the options and solutions?

Options: Unity, rule of law versus disunity, another Somalia.
Solution: The first option.

Is this new? No, probably only to individuals like you.


I think you are not serious. If so, its good you accept the current Tigray regime.

Your cheap shots only expose you further. Save me your acceptance of the current TPLF regime. I wouldn't even call it a Tigray regime.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Naga Tuma » 07 Jul 2012, 20:39


I really don't understand why you want to blame the USA for this situation. There were public reports that a US official seriously advised Meles about having a sea outlet for Ethiopia but he refused.
ProudEthiopian wrote:I think we should blame Meles and USA more than arabs for this situation.
Roha wrote:No power, no matter how big, will be able to keep Ethiopia landlocked forever. Meles knows this very well, he is just waiting for better opportunity. Every lazy Arab has access to the sea, even little town called Dijibouti but not the Ethiopians. Every African and Ethiopian should know why the Arabs, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are busy in the affairs of Ethiopia with their hired slaves such as Isaias Arabqit to keep Ethiopia landlocked.
It is funny, there are only fifty thousand Afars in Eritrea who control 700 kms of the Red Sea and there are only four thousand Arabs of Saudi Rashaida in Eritrea with 300 kms of the sea coast. All in all while the Arab Rashaida are busy raping and selling Eritreans to other Arabs. But 90 million Ethiopians are landlocked, this is an Arab insult to Ethiopians.
This is what happens when you have retarded leaders.
Halafmegedi wrote:
My disagreement with Eritreans or Shaebia or Issayas is not as people I hate them but the position they have taken against Tigray and Ethiopia, specifically border and sea outlet. If the sea outlet for Eritreans was very shallow or narrow space let’s say Djibouti like then I would not claim Tigray and Ethiopia should have an access to the sea by snatching from the Eritreans the only access they have but the sea outlet is over 1000 miles long and Eritrea does not need it and using it either. The Eritrean stand is simply to punish Tigrayans and Ethiopians more than anything else. If this is the case then Tigray and Ethiopia do not have any recourse but to sharpen their knives and defend their long term interest and security for their existence in this planet.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby ProudEthiopian » 07 Jul 2012, 21:33


Are you that naive, just because a US official said so that was American policy ?
Dont you guys think that the Americans have discussed such important issues before allowing TPLF to take power in Ethiopia ?
And if the US really wanted that Ethiopia kept the Asseb region why didn't it use its influence to force TPLF to do so ?

Naga Tuma wrote:I really don't understand why you want to blame the USA for this situation. There were public reports that a US official seriously advised Meles about having a sea outlet for Ethiopia but he refused.
ProudEthiopian wrote:I think we should blame Meles and USA more than arabs for this situation.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Roha » 07 Jul 2012, 22:06


Proud shabbia wrote,
And if the US really wanted that Ethiopia kept the Asseb region why didn't it use its influence to force TPLF to do so ?

In 1991, the Dergue army was disintegrating and the Woyannie have no option but to accept anything that can keep it in Addis, therefore, might decided the day. This time too, might will decide it.
if the disintegrating shabbia has any force to counter the Ethiopian or woyannie army, it can keep the ports as a war booty forever and ever as long as it is able to maintain its military power. This is akin to the USSR competing in the arms race against the USA.
History shows that shabbia's fate is sealed as it is headed to disaster.
The US is using its influence, just look around how shabbia is being sanctioned with the rope dangling on its neck.

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