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Re: AYA Revolutions Naa SatamahaGn BLagn

Postby revolutions » 30 Jun 2012, 07:46


Conformist wrote:
revolutions wrote:I don't think the students were able to make a judgment about what the future holds for them before enrolling in college. Unfortunately, fate always has a different plan for people than they have for themselves, and the graduates met their fate on the receiving end of Woyane's apartheid policy that favors the Adwans over the rest of Ethiopians. The prevalent discrimination against the overwhelming majority of students in the country would have been unthinkable under normal circumstances, with a responsible government and leadership. In my humble opinion, afraid to call a spade a spade and blaming the victims is the same as validating the injustices suffered by the victims.



Dear Rev,

Unfortunately this ethnic discrimation by Woyane is nothing new, except in Derg and imperial times the discremination was not according to tribe, but according to your loyalty to the regime. I am old enough to remember the resentment of the AA University graduates during Janhoy times who were full of rage for being kept out of the loop. That was actually one of the causes of the revolution. During Derg times if you were unwilling to become a member of ኢሰፓአኮ no job for you. So in all fairness discimination is nothing new, except that now it has reached an unreasonable magnitude.

On the other hand both during imperial times and Derg times, those youngsters who were dignified and wise enough to seek vocational training never had to beg for a job. Every ትግባረ እድ graduate either had an instant employment or started his own business. It is the same today, in Ethiopia there is no unemployed carpenter, bricklayer, metal worker or auto mechanic. They all have secure and well paying jobs. The ones who are unemployed are the fools who wasted their years on useless academic pursuits such as political science, history and other useless tripe you can teach yourself by reading the appropriate books you can download off the internet.

I understand you a Tigrayan, so perhaps you may not have had a lot of experience with the degraded thinking of the parents of Addis Ababa who would be horrified if their son aspires to become a farmer, or desires to be a day laborer to earn extra cash when school's out. The people of Addis Ababa have been infected with some kind of virus that makes them despise manual labor. They have no idea of how ennobling it can be to the soul to work with your hand and to sweat from labor.

Those youngsters who rent newspapers seeking nonexistent office jobs would be horrified if they were to be offered jobs to clean the city. They would think of it below their dignity to get their hands dirty.


To a varying extent I agree that past injustices, real or imagined, can have a lasting negative impact on society, but the new generation of Ethiopians also have a moral obligation and duty not to be held hostage to the paralyzing past if a more equal Ethiopian society is to be created. Just because successive regimes of the past committed gross historical injustices doesn't absolve the current TPLF regime of exacerbating the same situation, albeit with entirely different ethnic makeup, leading to the overt discrimination that has reached a boiled point today.

I also agree that technical and vocational skills are very crucial for the development of any African nation, but in woyane-occupied Ethiopia where donor nations build all the schools and make all the decisions for the students about what kind of education they should get, the students don't have any other choice but to attend the donor-built and funded universities and become part of the brain drain problem that is costing the continent $4 billion dollars a year. It's for this reason that there are more Ethiopian doctors in the city of Chicago than in the whole of Ethiopia. By contrast, technical college graduates are much less likely to flee the country for economical reasons, unless the hardship is caused by domestic political turmoil or external factors beyond the government's control.

It's indeed very sad that, today, contracts to all major donor funded development projects in Ethiopia are awarded to Chinese or Indian nationals -- graduates of 2-year technical college -- while Ethiopian university graduates are fleeing the country en masse to South Africa in search for low-end, unskilled jobs and earn more than those in Ethiopia doing the same kind of unskilled jobs for a meager pay. Yes, there's probably an element of pride involved with their refusal to do the menial jobs in Ethiopia, but for the most part, money seems to be the underlying factor in their mass migration.



Re: AYA Revolutions Naa SatamahaGn BLagn

Postby Conformist » 30 Jun 2012, 09:31


I agree with pretty much everything you wrote except this,

also agree that technical and vocational skills are very crucial for the development of any African nation, but in woyane-occupied Ethiopia where donor nations build all the schools and make all the decisions for the students about what kind of education they should get, the students don't have any other choice but to attend the donor-built and funded universities


The real reason Ethiopian youngsters refuse vocational training has to do with the culture, Ethiopia still has not emancipated herself from the primitive idea that craftsmanship or any work that involves the muscles is undignified. To be called a farmer or a carpenter in Ethiopia is still far from prestigious. If you ask a kid in AA today, he will tell you he wants to become a doctor, an engineer, or a lawyer. Some would say a pilot. It is difficult to find a kid who says he wants to be a farmer, a mechanic, or a truck driver. The culture is gradually changing, but still it is the primitive culture that is pulling all these youngsters back.

For example, even today the only Ethiopians who are interested in building houses in the countryside are those who come from the diaspora, the locals want to build a house only in Addis Ababa, or perhaps Bahr Dar. You won't find a local who wants to settle in any remote location. But those same locals have no trouble taking such frighthening risks with their lives to travel all the way to South Africa to get low paying jobs.

Look at the Google map of the Ethiopian countryside, it is mostly empty, but who has the guts to leave the city to settle in the empty quarters.



Re: AYA Revolutions Naa SatamahaGn BLagn

Postby EPRDF » 30 Jun 2012, 11:18


Ayte Eden/aka/EPRDF,
Do you have any more videos to be reviewed before you lock this thread ?

Yes I do, but we don't want you to do something stuupid to yourself after watching this. We want you to stay well till the inauguration day, aight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzkCeSMQRyE



Re: AYA Revolutions Naa SatamahaGn BLagn

Postby EPRDF » 30 Jun 2012, 11:23


Ethiopia signs $3.2 bln deals for new railway line

By Aaron Maasho


Ethiopia has signed two deals worth $3.2 billion with Chinese and Turkish companies to construct a railway to link the land-locked Horn of Africa nation to Djibouti's Tadjourah port to export potash, officials said.

Ethiopia, which has seen high economic growth over the past five years, hopes to exploit growing business ties with China, India and Turkey to boost its expanding economy.

Under a five-year development plan launched in 2010, the government aims to pursue power projects and boost infrastructure, including building several new railways.

Getachew Betru, head of the Ethiopian Railways Corporation (ERC), said Turkish firm Yapi Merkezi will build a $1.7 billion railway line in the northeast, part of a project that stretches to Djibouti's third port of Tadjourah, which is under construction.

Tadjourah, on the Red Sea, is the closest outlet for Ethiopia's Afar region, where a number of foreign firms, including Canada's Allana Potash Corp, a re developing potash mines.

Allana said in February it would work with Djibouti authorities to integrate required potash storage and handling facilities into the new port plans.

Wednesday's deal followed a $1.5 billion agreement signed over the weekend between ERC and China Communications Construction Company to build a different section of the railway line to Tadjourah port.

Yapi Merkazi is expected to complete its portion of the line in 42 months, the foreign ministry said on its website.

This will link up with the section being built by the Chinese firm, as well as other portions, to give Ethiopia an alternative port access from the current route to Djibouti's mai n outlet, and providing an outlet for potash development,

Ethiopia aims to construct 5,000 km of railway lines by 2020 and says companies from BRIC nations have shown an interest in several projects.

The neighbouring economies are reliant on each other with about 70 percent of all trade through the tiny Red Sea state.



Re: AYA Revolutions Naa SatamahaGn BLagn

Postby revolutions » 30 Jun 2012, 15:10



Ayte Eden/aka/EPRDF,

If the potash mining companies are pulling out of Ethiopia because it's not economically feasible for them to mine the deposit and transport it on railways to the port of Djibouti for export, why do you keep insisting on laying down the railway tracks that apparently will have no use whatsoever? Honestly, I just don't see how flushing $3.2 billion of AID dollars down the drain will cure your inferiority complex towards the neighbors who are set to become top potash exporting country in the world.




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BHP to pullout of Ethiopia

The largest mining company in the world, BPH Billiton, is to pullout of the Dallol potash project in the Afar Regional State. Reliable sources told The Reporter that BHP has notified its decision to withdraw from the Dallol potash project to the Ministry of Mines. Sources said that the company has asked for clearance from the ministry adding that the reason for their withdrawal is not yet clear.

The Anglo-Australian mining giant has been prospecting for potash mineral in the Dallol Depression. The company has conducted seismic survey and drilled boreholes to make potash reserve deposit estimate found in the area. The Reporter’s repeated attempts to get the response of the senior officials of the Ministry of Mines were not successful.

Studies indicate that there is a potash mineral deposit amounting to 160 million tons in the Dallol depression. Sainik, Indian company, BHP and Allana Resources are among the companies that have concessions in the Dallol Depression. BHP’s withdrawal will be a big let-down for the Ministry of Mines which at the same time is hard hit by staff turnover. Professionals have been leaving the ministry in search of better pay. It has been almost a year since the Ministry stopped accepting new applications for mining licenses. The professionals in the area have been complaining about the leadership crisis at the ministry.
http://www.stockhouse.com/Bullboards/Me ... ST&l=0&r=0

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Should Shareholders of Allana Potash Corp. (TSX: AAA.TO) be Concerned About BHP Billiton's Rumored Exit from Ethiopia?

Posted on June 18, 2012 by OTC Equity

Allana Potash Corp (TSX: AAA.TO) is getting plenty of attention on Monday following speculation that mining giant BHP Billiton is ready to abandon their potash development in Ethiopia. According to several reports BHP is already in the process of closing down the camp and auctioning off equipment, a move that many see as a bad sign for Allana. .... There are those investors who see BHP's exit from Ethiopia as a bad ...

http://www.otcequity.com/exclusive.php?post=2281



Re: AYA Revolutions Naa SatamahaGn BLagn

Postby revolutions » 05 Jul 2012, 13:38


Conformist wrote:I agree with pretty much everything you wrote except this,

also agree that technical and vocational skills are very crucial for the development of any African nation, but in woyane-occupied Ethiopia where donor nations build all the schools and make all the decisions for the students about what kind of education they should get, the students don't have any other choice but to attend the donor-built and funded universities


The real reason Ethiopian youngsters refuse vocational training has to do with the culture, Ethiopia still has not emancipated herself from the primitive idea that craftsmanship or any work that involves the muscles is undignified. To be called a farmer or a carpenter in Ethiopia is still far from prestigious. If you ask a kid in AA today, he will tell you he wants to become a doctor, an engineer, or a lawyer. Some would say a pilot. It is difficult to find a kid who says he wants to be a farmer, a mechanic, or a truck driver. The culture is gradually changing, but still it is the primitive culture that is pulling all these youngsters back.

For example, even today the only Ethiopians who are interested in building houses in the countryside are those who come from the diaspora, the locals want to build a house only in Addis Ababa, or perhaps Bahr Dar. You won't find a local who wants to settle in any remote location. But those same locals have no trouble taking such frighthening risks with their lives to travel all the way to South Africa to get low paying jobs.

Look at the Google map of the Ethiopian countryside, it is mostly empty, but who has the guts to leave the city to settle in the empty quarters.


I believe that the poor cultural attributes you've mentioned above can be countered by government intervention through effective policies that focus on prioritized educational programs.

Watch the following video clip to see how a certain Asian country rose from a Third World status to become a highly developed country and Asia's economic powerhouse by focusing on education and human resources development. In the 1960s, emphasis was given to primary education -- to educate a large mass of people. By the early to mid 70's, the emphasis switched to secondary school education and also most importantly, to technical education. From the 1980's onward, the focus is on higher education and specialized programs. They got their priorities in order and they're now reaping the fruit of their labors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaj8Jl5X ... age#t=332s

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