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Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Roha » 06 Jul 2012, 17:30


No power, no matter how big, will be able to keep Ethiopia landlocked forever. Meles knows this very well, he is just waiting for better opportunity. Every lazy Arab has access to the sea, even little town called Dijibouti but not the Ethiopians. Every African and Ethiopian should know why the Arabs, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are busy in the affairs of Ethiopia with their hired slaves such as Isaias Arabqit to keep Ethiopia landlocked.
It is funny, there are only fifty thousand Afars in Eritrea who control 700 kms of the Red Sea and there are only four thousand Arabs of Saudi Rashaida in Eritrea with 300 kms of the sea coast. All in all while the Arab Rashaida are busy raping and selling Eritreans to other Arabs. But 90 million Ethiopians are landlocked, this is an Arab insult to Ethiopians.
This is what happens when you have retarded leaders.
Halafmegedi wrote:
My disagreement with Eritreans or Shaebia or Issayas is not as people I hate them but the position they have taken against Tigray and Ethiopia, specifically border and sea outlet. If the sea outlet for Eritreans was very shallow or narrow space let’s say Djibouti like then I would not claim Tigray and Ethiopia should have an access to the sea by snatching from the Eritreans the only access they have but the sea outlet is over 1000 miles long and Eritrea does not need it and using it either. The Eritrean stand is simply to punish Tigrayans and Ethiopians more than anything else. If this is the case then Tigray and Ethiopia do not have any recourse but to sharpen their knives and defend their long term interest and security for their existence in this planet.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Hawzen » 06 Jul 2012, 18:23


Roha wrote:No power, no matter how big, will be able to keep Ethiopia landlocked forever. Meles knows this very well, he is just waiting for better opportunity. Every lazy Arab has access to the sea, even little town called Dijibouti but not the Ethiopians. Every African and Ethiopian should know why the Arabs, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia, are busy in the affairs of Ethiopia with their hired slaves such as Isaias Arabqit to keep Ethiopia landlocked.
It is funny, there are only fifty thousand Afars in Eritrea who control 700 kms of the Red Sea and there are only four thousand Arabs of Saudi Rashaida in Eritrea with 300 kms of the sea coast. All in all while the Arab Rashaida are busy raping and selling Eritreans to other Arabs. But 90 million Ethiopians are landlocked, this is an Arab insult to Ethiopians.
This is what happens when you have retarded leaders.
Halafmegedi wrote:
My disagreement with Eritreans or Shaebia or Issayas is not as people I hate them but the position they have taken against Tigray and Ethiopia, specifically border and sea outlet. If the sea outlet for Eritreans was very shallow or narrow space let’s say Djibouti like then I would not claim Tigray and Ethiopia should have an access to the sea by snatching from the Eritreans the only access they have but the sea outlet is over 1000 miles long and Eritrea does not need it and using it either. The Eritrean stand is simply to punish Tigrayans and Ethiopians more than anything else. If this is the case then Tigray and Ethiopia do not have any recourse but to sharpen their knives and defend their long term interest and security for their existence in this planet.


Dedebit graduates,

The answer is very simple. Ethiopia will be landlocked as long as your coward little frog rejects to use Assab and Massawa Ports :lol: :lol: :lol: .


Dedebit is always dedebit

R.I.P Abay Tigray



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Halafi Mengedi » 06 Jul 2012, 18:38


If Meles was or is waiting for better opportunity to have an access to the sea how come Meles failed to take that great opportunity when the whole country including all Diaspora Ethiopians were behind the war effort and Meles has the greatest opportunity to shape the politics of north Ethiopia once for all but he betrayed us and sold us for nothing.

If Meles see Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Eritrea as enemy then why Meles has given fertile land to Saudi and Egypt to feed their own people and Meles gave a breathing room to shaebia when they were surrounded during the border war???

Had Meles push for a week or demand Shaebia to sign the border at Meles’s wish Shaebia did not have any choice but to sign it or flee to exile and Ethiopian could have rolled in and control the entire Eritrea.

The Ethiopia enemy is Meles Zenawi, no one else. Saudi, Egypt and Eritrea are doing everything to secure their own interest not for the interest of Ethiopia; therefore, the land locker is Meles not Saudi and Egypt or Eritrea. If we want to see Ethiopia regain sea outlet, Ethiopia has to remove Meles first and we shall see what will happen. If the leader of Ethiopia was a different leader may be Shaebia could have behaved accordingly. Today Shaebia is acting according the Meles gut and records and I do not fault them working for their own vital interest.

Didn’t Meles called the brave General Berhe Shaebia from the war zone because his troops were advancing to Asmara to capture it and when he arrived in Addis Ababa he was assassinated with his wife at night because he humiliated Shaebia???

Where is the outrage of Ethiopians specially Tigrayans to defend the slain General who was doing his job and protecting our pride and interest???



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Yakume » 06 Jul 2012, 18:48


The confederation of the Horn of Africa countries (UNITED HORN OF AFRICA NATION) is coming soon. So, no need to worry about this issue. There will be regional integration ‘of course after peace”, free movement of the citizens and trade in the region, no fighting and conflicts, and also shuftas in our region. So Ethiopia will not landlocked country.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby sewAsew » 06 Jul 2012, 19:03


Roha and HM
Between woyanae and shabya, there was supposed to be reached at some agreement/arrangment like land swap deal that grants Ethiopia access to sea and in return Ethiopia to give out a fertile land at its periphery to Eritrea before the final divorce took place in 1993. That ample opportunity had lost at the time for unknown reason and Eritrea became internationally recognized, independent state with its defined territory. That was Meles and co's huge political bankrupt as it is irreversible by any mechanism now. if we want to invade a neighboring country for our sea outlet need, invading Eritrea is equal to invading Djibouti or Somali land, and invading a soveriegn country is against international law, period.
So the answer for your question “ how long Ethiopia will be a land locked” in my opinion, it would be for eternity.
Nonetheless, Ethiopia is better off today without a port, and a port doesn’t deserve an ounce of our blood.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Conformist » 06 Jul 2012, 19:06


Yakume wrote:The confederation of the Horn of Africa countries (UNITED HORN OF AFRICA NATION) is coming soon. So, no need to worry about this issue. There will be regional integration ‘of course after peace”, free movement of the citizens and trade in the region, no fighting and conflicts, and also shuftas in our region. So Ethiopia will not landlocked country.


This the only path to take if we are going to avoid unnecessary bloodshed, no one can guarantee there will be no war with Eritrea after Woyane is gone, but it is probably unnecessary, because Eritreans will find it a lot easier to work with a new regime after Woyane is gone. Eritrea will open up to free trade, so will Ethiopia, so will the other nations of the region. When everybody has a stake in the new arrangement every country will be afraid of war.

As for Djibouti, it needn't have been seprate from Ethiopia if Menilik hadn't given it away to the French. Meles was not the first to give away Ethiopian territory.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Akele » 06 Jul 2012, 19:13


the red sea will be eritrean wheather you like it or not



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Dejach Aklilu » 06 Jul 2012, 19:15


The post-meles leader of ethiopia will make it their priority to regain assab and make it a property of ethiopia. Because it is a huge political gain and a burning issue in ethiopia and has been for the past 20 years.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Halafi Mengedi » 06 Jul 2012, 19:19


sewAsew wrote:Roha and HM
Between woyanae and shabya, there was supposed to be reached at some agreement/arrangment like land swap deal that grants Ethiopia access to sea and in return Ethiopia to give out a fertile land at its periphery to Eritrea before the final divorce took place in 1993. That ample opportunity had lost at the time for unknown reason and Eritrea became internationally recognized, independent state with its defined territory. That was Meles and co's huge political bankrupt as it is irreversible by any mechanism now. if we want to invade a neighboring country for our sea outlet need, invading Eritrea is equal to invading Djibouti or Somali land, and invading a soveriegn country is against international law, period.
So the answer for your question “ how long Ethiopia will be a land locked” in my opinion, it would be for eternity.
Nonetheless, Ethiopia is better off today without a port, and a port doesn’t deserve an ounce of our blood.


There was no land swap between the two organizations but there was misleading by the Eritreans and Woyane did not want to talk about it because it makes the Woyane leaders either mercenaries or fools.
Eritrea is part of Ethiopia and they got it not through UN but by Gun and Bullet and Ethiopia will use the same medicine Eritreans used and the result will be the same that UN is irrelevant when the Eritreans took part of Ethiopia by force and Ethiopia will take it back by force. UN is nothing but accommodates the ceremony after the events or actions took place. This UN and recognized country, Ethiopia was recognized country from the tip of Red Sea to deep down Moyale. We do not need the Shaebia mercenary’s Adwan talking points and right now we are way beyond it but we have to be very patience until the head of mercenaries Meles gets his justice.



Re: Ethiopia landlocked, for how long?

Postby Conformist » 06 Jul 2012, 19:27


Halafi Mengedi wrote:If Meles was or is waiting for better opportunity to have an access to the sea how come Meles failed to take that great opportunity when the whole country including all Diaspora Ethiopians were behind the war effort and Meles has the greatest opportunity to shape the politics of north Ethiopia once for all but he betrayed us and sold us for nothing.

If Meles see Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Eritrea as enemy then why Meles has given fertile land to Saudi and Egypt to feed their own people and Meles gave a breathing room to shaebia when they were surrounded during the border war???

Had Meles push for a week or demand Shaebia to sign the border at Meles’s wish Shaebia did not have any choice but to sign it or flee to exile and Ethiopian could have rolled in and control the entire Eritrea.

The Ethiopia enemy is Meles Zenawi, no one else. Saudi, Egypt and Eritrea are doing everything to secure their own interest not for the interest of Ethiopia; therefore, the land locker is Meles not Saudi and Egypt or Eritrea. If we want to see Ethiopia regain sea outlet, Ethiopia has to remove Meles first and we shall see what will happen. If the leader of Ethiopia was a different leader may be Shaebia could have behaved accordingly. Today Shaebia is acting according the Meles gut and records and I do not fault them working for their own vital interest.

Didn’t Meles called the brave General Berhe Shaebia from the war zone because his troops were advancing to Asmara to capture it and when he arrived in Addis Ababa he was assassinated with his wife at night because he humiliated Shaebia???

Where is the outrage of Ethiopians specially Tigrayans to defend the slain General who was doing his job and protecting our pride and interest???



It was possible for Ethiopia to liberate Assab by force in 2000, but remember, Meles was adamant the Assab is Eritrean land and Ethiopia has no right to it. So by what right can you expect Meles to change his mind now, he has no intention of doing what you want him to do, and even if he wants to liberate Assab today he doesn't have the support of the people, and nothing can be done without the support of the people.

It would be a great catastrophe for Ethiopia if Meles were to liberate Assab now, because it will mean he will become president for life and he will keep doing all the evil he does today. Meles must never be allowed to liberate Assab, a very bad idea.

I agree with your argument that Meles gave Shabia a breathing room in 2000, because no military that has the upper hand seeks to negotiate with the enemy, it is unheard of. The Tigrayan people signed their death warrant when they allowed Meles to enter the Algiers agreement, and then to go for the EEBC arbitration after total victory over Shabia. That was the most insane and most suicidal move Tigrayans made, only because their burning hatred for Amhara blinded their eyes to the insanity of Meles' actions.

It is not a good idea for you to think that you can remove Meles and then to invade Eritrea to take back Assab, it will not work. There is timing for everything, back in 2000 when Tigray could have liberated Assab it failed to do so, now that window of opportunity is gone forever, so the future will look very different from the past, war won't solve anything, there has got to be a better way.

This General Berhe Sahbia may have been "brave", but he was not smart, whether he liked it or not as a military man he had the duty to obey his commander. You can't just have a loose cannon running around and making his own decisions in a time of war, especially a war like that. Military discipline means, you have to obey your commander no matter how much you may dislike the orders you get. Don't try to make a hero out of a fool.

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